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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244151: Jun 1st 2018 at 7:44:19 PM

Russia is stepping up it's information Warfare yet again, and we can't do anything to counter it until Cheeto is out. [1]

  1. Russia’s Federal News Agency (linked to the IRA troll factory, blocked by Facebook) is creating another weapon of info-war against the U.S., entitled "USA Really" - essentially, RT on steroids. Its stated goal is to spread "information and problems that are hushed up" by US MSM.

Here's the websites description in their own words. Any of it sound familiar?

Moscow, April 4th. Due to the growing political censorship imposed by the United States, there remains less and less of information sources that are not under control of the US authorities.

In this regard, US citizens cannot receive objective and independent information about events occurring on the territory of America and throughout the world. The information flow coming from the US and its allies, which is aimed at discrediting the Russian Federation, should not remain unanswered by the Russian media.

The Federal News Agency (FAN) is not going to put up with the hegemony of the US authorities in the information field and announces the launch of the project "Wake up, America!".

In May 2018, the information agency "USA Really. Wake Up Americans" will start its operations, it will focus on promoting information and problems that are hushed up by major American publications controlled by the US political elite.

We invite English-speaking journalists and authors to work on the project — send your C Vs to america@riafan.ru with the subject "Wake up, America".

edited 1st Jun '18 7:52:26 PM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#244152: Jun 1st 2018 at 7:55:06 PM

[up][up][up] Is the Beaverton an actual news site or a parody one? A serious news site probably wouldn't call US beer "canned water", accurate as it may be. I can't find any other news sites with this story.

edited 1st Jun '18 7:55:45 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#244153: Jun 1st 2018 at 7:55:28 PM

[up][up] They should switch that around to "Really, USA?". Also, can't we troll them using that link?

edited 1st Jun '18 7:55:37 PM by Wariolander

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244154: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:00:09 PM

[up] I wouldn't advise it. I'm pretty sure this would have links to Russian Intelligence, and is probably best to stay away from.

But if you must, at least make sure you are using a Burner Email.

And they are already up to crap [1]

If you're being invited "to the White House on June 14th at 2 PM to congratulate America" with Flag Day & celebrate Trump’s Birthday, beware that this "invitation" is coming from the Russian troll factory's new incarnation, "USA Really." Don't fall for it.

[up][up] It's satire. Hard to tell these days though, considering that we just had a headline where North Korea might install a burger joint instead of denuclearization.

edited 1st Jun '18 8:09:06 PM by megaeliz

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244155: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:09:41 PM

That's a joke on The Good Fight.

Diane has started using drugs to sleep which have hallucinations as side-effects. She has dreams where Trump adopts a pot-bellied pig and appoints Kayne Secretary of Information. The problem is that it's mixed with real life stories and almost loses her job because she no longer can tell truth from reality.

Because the truth has become so ridiculous it's hard to sort out.

edited 1st Jun '18 8:10:34 PM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244156: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:18:32 PM

Russia’s Federal News Agency (linked to the IRA troll factory, blocked by Facebook) is creating another weapon of info-war against the U.S., entitled "USA Really" - essentially, RT on steroids. Its stated goal is to spread "information and problems that are hushed up" by US MSM.

The fact that Russia is stepping up it's information Warfare against the US this close the midterms, is incredibly concerning. They want to meddle in our elections again, and we can't do anything about it!

edited 1st Jun '18 8:27:50 PM by megaeliz

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244157: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:30:48 PM

Yes we can.

ACCEPT OUR RUSSIAN MASTERS!

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#244158: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:39:03 PM

Blargh.

edited 1st Jun '18 9:00:10 PM by Wariolander

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#244159: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:39:38 PM

Well, there's only really so many things you can do about something like that.

For starters, you can't really make the public any less gullible. You can try and educate, but there's an unfortunate limit to the amount you can inoculate people against misinformation. Kind of like the crazification factor [1] a percentage of the population will just fall for that shit every time.

From the other end, it's also hard to stop the Russians from making websites. We can conduct limited cyberwarfare against them, disable their intelligence operations (to an extent, Russians are known for their tradecraft) or take apart botnets. Ultimately we can't literally prevent them from distributing this stuff, though.

For something like that, you kind of just have to take it as it is. It's worrying, but a foreign adversary operating an anti-US news site is nothing new. At this point we need to hope the deep state is doing its damn job and then vote Trump out ASAP.

They should have sent a poet.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#244160: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:47:21 PM

[up][up] Again with the calls for violence?

Disgusted, but not surprised
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244161: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:48:21 PM

Mind you, I'm not sure it's a call for violence if it's "dismantle attempted sabotage of our electoral process."

That strikes me as, "the FBI doing its job."

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#244162: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:50:56 PM

Except that's not really what Wariolander is suggesting, I think.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244163: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:53:29 PM

[up]x4 It's still an issue, and an even more brazen attempt to influence our elections.

Trump has given the green light for the Kremlin to go all out, by showing that there wouldn't be any serious consequences for meddling in our and our allies' elections, and that's exactly what they are doing.

edited 1st Jun '18 8:57:07 PM by megaeliz

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244164: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:55:16 PM

I mean, it's all but stated Trump's family went to Russia and asked, "Hey, got any KGB dirt on Hillary?"

FSB Plant: Uh....well, that was easier than expected. Sure.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244165: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:02:39 PM

[up] Putin is such a great guy, a great guy.

I'm having a hard time even trying to write like he talks.

edited 1st Jun '18 9:03:29 PM by megaeliz

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#244166: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:03:26 PM

[up][up][up] I'm just not sure this is an issue worth undue concern over. It's the lowest possible grade of foreign interference, and particularly now when there's actual foreign interference going on it's not worth the attention.

Something like that isn't even worth a look from CI, it's basically an international nuisance.

edited 1st Jun '18 9:03:35 PM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#244167: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:04:07 PM

Just a question, what would happen to the Russian government/politics when Putin dies?

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244168: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:04:08 PM

I disagree given the use of social media actually did influence the election and in a not-inconsiderable way.

Just a question, what would happen to the Russian government/politics when Putin dies?

Putin doesn't have an immediate successor but he does have a large collection of cronies. I'm fairly sure the next election will just be as fraudulent as the last and the one before it.

edited 1st Jun '18 9:05:22 PM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244169: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:04:55 PM

Deleted.

edited 1st Jun '18 9:05:14 PM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#244170: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:07:37 PM

Uh, a bit late but the Beaverton is blatantly a Canadian version of the Onion...

That said, American beer is like having sex in a canoe.tongue

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#244171: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:08:34 PM

[up]x4 Most likely a behind-the-scenes power struggle where the person with the greatest connections becomes the next President. That tends to be what happens in Russian Politics, although this time around there will almost certainly be less bloodshed (instead of massive purges in the Czarist and Communist Regimes, there will probably only be a few murders and a lot of arrests).

edited 1st Jun '18 9:09:15 PM by DingoWalley1

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244172: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:14:38 PM

[up]x4. hopefully this won't gain too much traction, but it's still something we should keep an eye on.

Can we talk about how trump's most recent Trade Wars and Isolationism is basically only benefiting one person, Vladmir Putin?

I mean, weakening Trans-Atlantic Ties, turning our allies against us, stregnthening Russia's relationship to China, and getting us out of the Middle East, and generally bringing the US to it's knees is Putin's Wet Dream.

edited 1st Jun '18 9:22:03 PM by megaeliz

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244173: Jun 1st 2018 at 9:16:57 PM

Can we talk about how trump's Trade Wars and Isolationism is basically only benefiting one person, Vladmir Putin?

No, Trump and his businesses have made billions.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#244174: Jun 1st 2018 at 10:08:22 PM

Pundits throughout the West have floated the idea of sanctioning Trump's businesses the way that 3rd world dictators and their friends have their accounts attacked.

Nothing has come of it as of now.

edited 1st Jun '18 10:17:54 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244175: Jun 1st 2018 at 10:20:58 PM

[up] do it! do it! do it!

It's the worst possible thing you could do to to him. It's the ultimate insult, and would just be beautiful to behold. (And anyway, trump industries is the real life Lex Corp).

edited 1st Jun '18 10:25:24 PM by megaeliz


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