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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#244076: Jun 1st 2018 at 2:17:00 AM

The reboot was the brainchild of Sarah Gilbert who wanted to examine the politics of the current political spectrum as well as reunite people she literally grew up with and helped raise her. It was neither Roseanne's idea or baby.

Reeeeeeeeeach.

i'm tired, my friend
HeSupplanted15 Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
#244077: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:20:05 AM

It doesn’t seem to be that cold in Vermont. The annual low temperature is about 2 Celsius. I guess that’s cold by the standards of a lot of America?

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244078: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:28:25 AM

[up] it's more the crazy amounts of snow they get.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#244079: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:37:12 AM

Haven't there already been worse presidents than Donald Trump? James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson are all contenders for "worst president ever", along with Warren Harding. Though it's hard to tell which is less awful

Wow, Lincoln was the gem in a dumpster fire

edited 1st Jun '18 4:38:22 AM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244080: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:42:00 AM

I don't put Trump as worse than Bush because Bush killed hundreds of thousands people and destabilized the world through unnecessary incompetence.

And Andrew Jackson is guilty of genocide and mass murder.

He's also not the only President who did that.

Trump is primarily guilty of massive indiscriminate corruption, lying, and cheating.

Hell, Trump's actions aren't even as bad as some of the "good" Presidents less we forget Japanese internment.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#244081: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:47:38 AM

Trump's single worst trait is that he's a moron who should never have been allowed near the position in the first place. The only silver lining is that his being a moron has mitigated a lot of his own damage and progressively makes getting out of office earlier a genuine possibility.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#244082: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:47:47 AM

Every interview basically said, "it's 200 liberal writers working behind the scenes to write the scripts Barr reads."

If 200 liberals really wrote in the show than that atrocous Muslim neighbor episode really shows liberals' problems lol

DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#244083: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:48:34 AM

With regards to the tariff war, this might not actually be terrible in the event of another global mess. China runs an export surplus, the Eurozone as a bloc runs an export surplus, the oil states run an export surplus. Most of that's bought by the USA plus the UK and Australia. Now the USA doesn't want to play anymore, Brexit is likely to subject the UK to EU common tariffs and Australian trade is dominated by China. Germany may well run out of places to sell cars and tech, they can't export to Mars.

If the Germans keep their export surplus going and continue their chronic underconsumption then the moment the Eurozone goes pop then they'll be stuck in a major deflation for quite a while. Reducing their surplus may well lessen the pain, although I bet they'd prefer to do this literally any other way if at all. No idea what impact that would have on the USA, I'm an economic amateur, but I can't imagine that stacking import price inflation on top of zero wage growth and job losses from the tariffs will produce happy rust belt fun time.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#244084: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:52:17 AM

Don't forget cost of living and basic goods going up across the board.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#244085: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:52:21 AM

[up][up][up][up] He's also emboldening the very worst elements of US society and has given positions of power and authority to people who really shouldn't have them. Example: Oh, nearly his entire damn Cabinet.

And there's all the deregulation going on too. And the erosion of the USA's soft power. And the trade war. And...

edited 1st Jun '18 4:53:23 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#244086: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:54:30 AM

[up][up][up] I'm not sure I understand how that translates to "not actually terrible"

[up] Most of that ties into his being a moron, to me.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#244087: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:55:14 AM

It's sometimes hard to separate the ignorance and stupidity from the malice in this administration. This administration has both in abundance.

The things I listed are also not things that will be easily reversed.

edited 1st Jun '18 4:56:18 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#244088: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:55:55 AM

Ignorance, malice, same results.

i'm tired, my friend
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#244089: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:57:59 AM

On a different note...I finally got confirmation that my mail-in ballot for the June 5 primaries for California reached the vote registrar. Just got to wait now.

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#244090: Jun 1st 2018 at 4:58:32 AM

Well, this administration's mishandling of Puerto Rico ended up with deaths of thousands of American citizens.

edited 1st Jun '18 4:59:23 AM by megaeliz

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#244091: Jun 1st 2018 at 5:04:41 AM

While claiming a death toll that wasn't even 2% the actual number

DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#244092: Jun 1st 2018 at 5:20:57 AM

[up]x6

Well, it's terrible for you guys and will probably put a few of Britain's last industry workers out of their jobs, but it might lessen the impact of the inevitable Eurozone crash. The silver lining is low-quality and tarnished.

If you want to lessen a trade deficit, just bluntly slapping tariffs on everything is perhaps the worst possible way to do it, and the USA is the country that has the least to worry about trade because you get to print the global reserve asset and never have to borrow in a foreign currency like the rest of us. Trump is spending political capital hand over fist to solve the only problem the USA and only the USA is immune to.

The post-war economic order was "USA recycles trade surpluses through Europe" then "USA recycles European and Chinese/Japanese trade surpluses through Wall Street" when you went into deficit, which kept things moving nicely until 2008, when the system broke down. These tariffs will probably prevent anyone from getting it going again, so we need to come up with something else.

Personally I like Keynes' Bancor as a method of restricting and redressing trade imbalances, but that would require the USA to give up their status as the reserve asset. Maybe we should try that now while we have a president who doesn't understand what that means anyway?

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244093: Jun 1st 2018 at 6:13:03 AM

Puerto Rico is easily the worst thing Trump has done in terms of body count.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#244094: Jun 1st 2018 at 6:24:05 AM

And is still doing.

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#244095: Jun 1st 2018 at 7:18:29 AM

a lot of us who previously though Dubya was the worst President we've ever known now kind of miss him.
Dubya was the worst President I knewnote  but I never felt he was in the bottom five worst Presidents. Bottom half, maybe; around the middle sure.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#244096: Jun 1st 2018 at 7:27:24 AM

The Roseanne Muslim episode is about her discovering she's a complete idiot about Muslims and that they have more to be afraid of bigoted white people than she does from them.

But that was just my read on it.

It's nice to have it acknowledged white people aren't usually the victims.

edited 1st Jun '18 7:27:41 AM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#244097: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:03:17 AM

Hell, Trump's actions aren't even as bad as some of the "good" Presidents less we forget Japanese internment.

The difference is that Internment is a blemish on an otherwise very positive administration.

The Trump administration, by contrast, is a dumpster fire of malice, avarice, and corruption that has done absolutely nothing positive to offset that.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#244098: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:04:10 AM

Cross-Posting with the Race- Privilege, Relations, Racism, etc. Thread:

At least eight white nationalists are running in 2018 for federal and state offices across the country. Many of them are running openly on messages of hate, including one who is preaching Holocaust denial and wants to make Chicago's neighborhoods 90 percent white.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/politics/Hate-on-the-Ballot-At-Least-8-White-Nationalists-in-Races-Across-US-484270591.html

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#244099: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:05:10 AM

[up][up]And incompetence. Don't forget incompetence.

[up]Only 90%?Why not go for a full 100?tongue

edited 1st Jun '18 8:06:32 AM by kkhohoho

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#244100: Jun 1st 2018 at 8:08:09 AM

The Roseanne Muslim episode is about her discovering she's a complete idiot about Muslims and that they have more to be afraid of bigoted white people than she does from them.

No it's about how Muslims have to be nice to paranoid jerks.


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