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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Samatha Bee has apologized to Ivanka (and her audience) for what she said.
edited 31st May '18 12:37:01 PM by LSBK
People shouldn’t be paying to be medical guinea pigs, you get paid to do medical testing you don’t pay for the privilege.
If people want to try experimental procedures as a last ditch effort I’m okay with that, I’m not okay with companies profiting directly from that, they can profit by getting free test subjects and that should be the limit.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranFull list of the first wave of counter-tariffs from Canada in response to Trump's latest BS move.
https://www.fin.gc.ca/activty/consult/cacsap-cmpcaa-eng.asp
@Nick: Still, it's not exactly a "clean" insult and even though I see no problem with it personally, others do, so the right thing is to call out people on it and get them to use other words (there are no lack of creative insults in any language).
The EU should also be presenting its own list soon enough, probably the same as last time the trade war was looming - orange juice and motorcycles.
edited 31st May '18 1:06:26 PM by Grafite
Life is unfair...Too much focus, on everyone's part, on red states. Should be a more general target, to put maximum pressure on Congress. Maybe they are just holding back for when Trump adds more or throws a fit and retaliates himself.
US trading partners have zero reason to spare certain states at this point, it won't help.
Republicans in Congress are starting to speak out against Trump. But we all know what their word is worth, so until action comes on tariffs.
edited 31st May '18 1:14:37 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.I mean, it's less "spare certain states" and more "hurt certain states." Focusing tariffs on swing states or states with influential representatives makes sense.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Yeah, i can agree fully with this - though I should hope that such drugs would meet a minimum standard of testing beforehand.
And with the Country Matters comment, part of why Bee pulled the Show Some Leg card is over Donald's previous... unsettling comments regarding his daughter's attractiveness. As for using the word, it just makes me pine for the word "cur" to be brought back as an insult equivalent to calling someone a bitch.
Oh, and with Trump's possible pardoning of Martha Stewart and Rod Blagojevich
, I can kind of understand doing so for Martha, but why the fuck should Blago be given clemency? The guy literally tried selling off a Senate seat!
Also, fuck Trump for pardoning D'Souza, he of hackneyed "The Democrats are the real racists!" "documentaries" such as "Obama's America" and "Hillary's America".
edited 31st May '18 1:32:08 PM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"Blago also tried to defraud a fucking children's hospital.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Blagojevich_corruption_charges
No wonder Cheeto loves him.
edited 31st May '18 1:48:54 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Oh come now, he wasn't defrauding them!
It was extortion.
Abuse of power concerning release of US$8 million of state funds to Children's Memorial Hospital expecting to obtain a $50,000 campaign contribution.
edited 31st May '18 2:00:22 PM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"@Tobias Drake: this sort of thing is an excellent way to get middle class and poor families saddled with a LOT of medical debt, though. It's not just the rich that are going to want to do this kind of thing. This is one of the things that we're trying to prevent. Hell, my dad wasn't sick very long, but my mom was still getting bills sent to her a few years after his death. This sort of thing? It's got the very real threat of being another way to financially cripple a lot of people. That tends to stimey the concept of money going into the economy, and your post comes off as you thinking only the rich will be effected by this sort of thing. No, no, illness and death affect all financial classes of people.
The over 9000th study of that shows that white racism is why white Americans oppose welfare programs
The only socialism white people love is whites-only socialism.
Unlike some of the people in this thread, I am not pleased Samantha Bee resorted to such an insult, no matter who it was directed towards. For two reasons: 1) This just gives more ammo to the "look how hateful the left is!"/both sides arguments, and 2) It's more proof that civility is effectively dead. And despite Bee apologizing for "going too far", the genie isn't going back in the bottle. From here on out, insults that would normally have been relegated to comments sections are now normal on broadcast TV. Heaven help us.
edited 31st May '18 3:52:57 PM by speedyboris
RE D'Souza, Kim Kardassian tried to persuade him to pardon non-violent offenders and probably particularly stressed the impact on people of color. I guess it worked, but not quite how she intended.
RE Blago, I actually hope his sentence is commuted. Perhaps I don't have the full facts, but it seems to me that his conduct was sleazy/meant he shouldn't be reelected, but not necessarily outright criminal. And it seemed like the judge gave him a heavy sentence to "make an example of him" because of the continued corruption of Illinois politicians, even though his actions seemed far less egregious than those of previous Governor George Ryan, whose corruption indirectly got people killed. And Ryan received a much lower sentence.
And I guess I don't think anyone should really be doing like 15+ years in prison for a non-violent crime. Well, except for Michael Cohen or Paul Manafort or anyone else in Trump's circile. But I guess I'd try to distinguish between white collar crimes that border on treason and/or which really harm the public compared to "mundane" political corruption.
Remember, tariffs are not a precision instrument, and as the dispute escalates, every other party will get less selective in their targets. This is going to suck for everyone. Hopefully it causes enough damage that Republicans take the heat and/or are pressured to step in.
NAFTA is all but finished if this keeps up, Ottawa and Mexico City have little incentive to keep talking when the Orange House sanctions them for not becoming tributaries and demands poison pills like a sunset clause. Only bright spot is that the North American economy can't be split up again, even if Trump causes damage it still makes sense to work together.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Easing access to experimental treatment feels, to me, like a backdoor towards dismantling pharmaceutical regulation in general. Trump has been transparent in his intention to enact a general policy against the FDA.
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