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kazuauchiha from Springfield, MO Since: Jul, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#243976: May 31st 2018 at 9:54:53 AM

Why is trump pardoning Illinois D governor? Is he actively trying to make Illinois solid blue.[lol]

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#243977: May 31st 2018 at 9:55:28 AM

Sam Bee's use of that insult was completely intentional and forethought, and not in the least bit sexist.
Yes, yes, and maybe. I'm not convinced that it wasn't sexist - in other contexts, telling a woman to use her cleavage or other sexual assets to try and change someone's mind, is often absolutely sexist.
Bee's words were fueled by pure anger and contempt, not bigotry.
Now that I'll agree with. And I totally get the anger and contempt, I've got enough of my own towards everyone in that political party. But Bee's job is a comedian so if she's going to insult someone, then it should be funny. Like I'm not expecting a Comedy Central Roast towards the Trumpsnote , but it came off, to me, as very unfunny.

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#243978: May 31st 2018 at 9:56:15 AM

[up][up]Probably because he wants people in the Mueller probe to think he'll pardon them as long as they don't flip.

edited 31st May '18 9:56:28 AM by TheRoguePenguin

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#243979: May 31st 2018 at 9:58:09 AM

I don't really have much feelings toward that word, except thinking It being a stronger insult than most seems pretty arbitrary, but I guess that's language.

I'm reminded of Bill Maher referring to Sarah Palin with it. Of course,he's a man, and one that I think has a reputation as a pig to begin with, so probably not the best comparison.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#243980: May 31st 2018 at 10:02:49 AM

I try to avoid using gendered insults myself, but that's more of a personal preference. I tend to go for more scatalogical insults.
I'm still wondering why "cunt" seems to be more... severe than "dick" as an insult (outside of some parts of the Anglosphere, I mean).

edited 31st May '18 10:03:28 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#243981: May 31st 2018 at 10:03:45 AM

Republicans in California tend to be concentrated in certain areas, so don't get to excited, a lot of them can get reliably elected. And Independent voters tend to skew one way or another, so you'll have someone not want to be identified with either party and still vote Republican down the ballot.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#243982: May 31st 2018 at 10:14:45 AM

[up][up]Its often used to express extreme misogyny. While dick is slightly more vulgar than jerk.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#243983: May 31st 2018 at 10:20:23 AM

It's also Separated by a Common Language - in Australia, for example, it's a fairly generic insult for all sorts of cunts. grin

Yeah, Bee's joke was flat but I don't think it was any kind of -ist. It was just mocking Ivanka and doing it poorly.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#243984: May 31st 2018 at 10:34:43 AM

[up][up] Yeah, but technically both are words for genitals - and there are some areas where Country Matters isn't as much of an issue (heck, some areas have it being used as almost a term of endearment).

Though in my opinion calling someone a dick is actually more evocative - because they're acting like the equivalent of somebody swinging theirs around in public.

edited 31st May '18 10:35:44 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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#243985: May 31st 2018 at 10:43:32 AM

Country Matters probably needs to be really justified to avoid being taken the wrong way. I'm not so sure about Ivanka; she's just a Dumb Blonde just like the rest of her family. In this field, more blatant examples like Ann Coulter or Kelly-Anne Conway are more effective.

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#243986: May 31st 2018 at 10:53:38 AM

And how is "just like the rest of her family" not ample justification for literally any insult?

"It's okay, she's just like Donald Trump only moderates think she's not as bad (even though she isn't a lick better)."

The gist of it is that she, probably more than any other human being, genuinely has Trump's ear. If she wanted him to be doing something good, she actually could conceivably do so. Instead, she just is as bad as him. Like a cunt. I'm also happy calling Trump the same, though again it's an Insult to Rocks.

edited 31st May '18 10:55:08 AM by Larkmarn

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#243987: May 31st 2018 at 11:04:17 AM

Fair enough. I'm not as familiar with Ivanka as the rest of the Trump dynasty. I take it she's a bit more savvy when it comes to staying under the radar.

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#243988: May 31st 2018 at 11:06:07 AM

Looking deeper at how she runs her businesses is all you need to do to realize that the apple did not fall far from the tree.

Also, her fashion line is tacky, derivative, and overpriced.

Disgusted, but not surprised
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#243989: May 31st 2018 at 11:08:28 AM

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Also, her fashion line is tacky, derivative, and overpriced.
So basically Trump in a nutshell?

edited 31st May '18 11:08:44 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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#243990: May 31st 2018 at 11:11:21 AM

Like I said, the apple and the tree.

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#243991: May 31st 2018 at 11:12:03 AM

Honestly the idea that she was ever moderate or going to hold him back was nothing more than wishful thinking driven by the fact that unlike him she's at-least pretty. It was always a pathetic delusion.

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#243992: May 31st 2018 at 11:13:47 AM

I honestly never understood why people thought that would ever happen.

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kazuauchiha from Springfield, MO Since: Jul, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#243994: May 31st 2018 at 11:25:17 AM

I assume that most people weren't as aware of her horribleness as they were of Trump's?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#243995: May 31st 2018 at 11:28:17 AM

She doesn't make the headlines as often as her father.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#243996: May 31st 2018 at 11:30:46 AM

She inherited his low cunning (unlike Eric or Jr), and all of his negatives aside from maybe his impulsive nature. That makes her dangerous,

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#243997: May 31st 2018 at 11:40:12 AM

While those were points of concern, I am more concerned about terminal patients having their fears preyed on and wasting their final days on largely useless experiments and false hope, rather than palliative care and living out the remainder of their lives more comfortablly.

Hope is never useless. Even if it just means that people die optimistically, believing there's a way out, it's better than dying in misery, despair, and hopelessness.

Me, personally, I'd rather have the snake oil than be told, "You're f*cked. We aren't even going to try anything else. Just go die already and stop wasting our time with these frivolous attempts at living."

A 1% chance is better than 0%.

And bilking the last dollar from the dying.

I mean, you're dying. It's got to go somewhere. I'd rather dead people's money return to the economy in the form of being spent than hang around in billion-dollar trust funds forever.

What a dying person wants to spend his money on shouldn't be your problem. Programs to ensure that dead people's money stays safely out of government hands and out of the marketplace should be.

I don't really see the problem with this. Even if it just means some people get to die with peace of mind, pointlessly chasing false dreams and flooding the marketplace with what would otherwise have been their estate savings, that still seems more like a feature than a bug.

Me, personally, I want death to be a surprise. I never want to have to live in fear of the absolute unyielding certainty that I will die and that nobody can be arsed to help me do anything about it. I want to fight the inevitable to my literal dying breath.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#243998: May 31st 2018 at 11:44:23 AM

Hope is never useless. Even if it just means that people die optimistically, believing there's a way out, it's better than dying in misery, despair, and hopelessness.

Me, personally, I'd rather have the snake oil than be told, "You're f*cked. We aren't even going to try anything else. Just go die already and stop wasting our time with these frivolous attempts at living."

A 1% chance is better than 0%.

Sure but what happens when that snake oil is being funded by the sick persons friends and family? That sounds like a great way for conmen to take advantage of vulnerable people who aren't going to die and thus have to face the consequences of spending vast amounts of money that they may not be able to afford on worthless psuedo-medicine.

I mean, you're dying. It's got to go somewhere. I'd rather dead people's money return to the economy in the form of being spent than hang around in billion-dollar trust funds forever.

What a dying person wants to spend his money on shouldn't be your problem. Programs to ensure that dead people's money stays safely out of government hands and out of the marketplace should be.

I don't really see the problem with this. Even if it just means some people get to die with peace of mind, pointlessly chasing false dreams and flooding the marketplace with what would otherwise have been their estate savings, that still seems more like a feature than a bug.

Me, personally, I want death to be a surprise. I never want to have to live in fear of the absolute unyielding certainty that I will die and that nobody can be arsed to help me do anything about it. I want to fight the inevitable to my literal dying breath.

Yes and if the only person funding this is the dying person then you might be right, but I don't know why you would assume this.

edited 31st May '18 11:45:52 AM by Fourthspartan56

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#243999: May 31st 2018 at 11:50:24 AM

Until such a time as state-sponsored health insurance is being reasonably provided, the family not being able to afford medical treatment is going to be a problem with or without snake oil.

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#244000: May 31st 2018 at 11:57:08 AM

Except there is a demonstrable difference between the family spending money on things that can actually help and that which cannot, I see no actual benefit to allowing people to buy snake oil medicine and the fact that the rest of our system is so terrible is not a ringing endorsement of that position.

edited 31st May '18 11:57:22 AM by Fourthspartan56

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