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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#243801: May 29th 2018 at 11:15:52 AM

> Because ABC likes money.

that's the obvious go to answer,and your probably right,though there might be other reasons besides $

edited 29th May '18 11:17:47 AM by Ultimatum

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#243803: May 29th 2018 at 11:33:59 AM

re: Roseanne's cancellation

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go put some change into the Holy Grail reference jar.

edited 29th May '18 11:36:20 AM by TrashJack

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#243804: May 29th 2018 at 11:57:23 AM

A Statement from Nice Donald Trump

Thank you @ABC Network for your quick action regarding @therealroseanne. Those who practice racism and perpetuate conspiracy-tainted hate speech need to be consigned to the filthy gutters from whence they came. That kind of indecency is not what America is about.

edited 29th May '18 11:58:37 AM by megaeliz

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#243805: May 29th 2018 at 12:26:18 PM

As an update, the Amber Alert for Owen Hidalgo Calderon has been cancelled - not because they've found him, but because it's now been 6 days since the two went missing (4 since she was found dead), and the mentality has shifted to a recovery effort, rather than rescue.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#243806: May 29th 2018 at 12:44:31 PM

I'm curious.

Does anyone have any ideas for a better territory model? The situation in Puerto Rico is shameful. They are American citizens, yet thousands still don't have electricity or access to healthcare, but have no say in our Government because they don't have representatives.

Would the best option be pushing for statehood? That would have it's own problems I imagine, though. (It would never happen under this adminstration though)

edited 29th May '18 12:54:23 PM by megaeliz

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#243807: May 29th 2018 at 12:52:40 PM

It's got more people than some of the actual states have, so that would be the logical choice.

But it would mean having a state that is mostly full of Spanish speakers, so can't be having with that.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#243808: May 29th 2018 at 12:58:29 PM

[up] I think they should be able to vote in the presidential election, and should be able to elect a delegate that can actually vote for the House, at the very least. (The latter applies to D.C. as well)

edited 29th May '18 1:01:47 PM by megaeliz

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#243809: May 29th 2018 at 1:06:19 PM

The big issue with territories like Puerto Rico is that they possess the right to not have more autonomy or become states. Efforts to make PR a state in the past have failed because the actual citizens there voted no on referendums to it.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#243810: May 29th 2018 at 1:11:39 PM

[up] If I remember correctly, in the latest referendum, there was high support for statehood among people who voted. The problem was that only about 25 percent of eligible voters actually voted, which makes it an invalid measure of public support.

Statehood would be problematic for a number of reasons, though. Less then ten percent of Puerto Rican's speak English as their primary language, and 75 percent only speak it "not very well". How would that work, you think?

edited 29th May '18 1:23:26 PM by megaeliz

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#243811: May 29th 2018 at 1:25:07 PM

How would that work? Perfectly acceptably in a country that has no official language.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#243812: May 29th 2018 at 1:25:55 PM

[up][up]Official bilingualism.

edited 29th May '18 1:26:03 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#243813: May 29th 2018 at 1:29:45 PM

[up] Arguably the biggest barrier, provided that the people of Puerto Rico have the political will, would be the Republicans. Puerto Rico has a bunch of brown, Spanish speaking people, who would probably be a reliably democratic vote.

Everything they hate.

edited 29th May '18 1:30:35 PM by megaeliz

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#243814: May 29th 2018 at 1:31:05 PM

That's why Democrats have to win. Drive the Republicans back to their caves.

The Republicans are the obstacle to every positive change that could be undertaken. It doesn't matter what we're talking about, it's just assumed that the GOP will be a problem. So we can't worry about GOP opposition; it'll always be there, no matter what we do.

edited 29th May '18 1:32:42 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#243815: May 29th 2018 at 1:34:03 PM

I don’t really see why language would be an issue. There are plenty of countries where multiple languages are common.

The real issue is that Puerto Rico, like many Latin American countries, has a somewhat dim view of the US.

edited 29th May '18 1:35:09 PM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#243816: May 29th 2018 at 1:41:57 PM

Puerto Rico is the US.

We shouldn't even have territories. That's colonialist nonsense; they need to be given statehood because anything less promotes abuse.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#243817: May 29th 2018 at 1:44:17 PM

The point is that many in Puerto Rico don't see themselves as the U.S. or American, and don't want to see themselves as such. It's not even all about resenting the United States, either.

Most people seem to recognize they couldn't make it as an independent country, but that's not the same thing as wanting to be a state either, otherwise all those referendums wouldn't be necessary.

edited 29th May '18 1:46:04 PM by LSBK

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#243818: May 29th 2018 at 2:03:55 PM

The best thing about democracy is how you can watch people reliably and consistently make their situation worse for stupid reasons.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#243819: May 29th 2018 at 2:36:39 PM

[up][up]Since the benefits are obvious, are there any real potential drawbacks to statehood for Puerto Rico?

And is there a way to hold a Legitimate vote on this? The most recent one was was discredited due to a less than 25 percent turn out.

edited 29th May '18 2:57:34 PM by megaeliz

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#243820: May 29th 2018 at 2:39:48 PM

The Republican governor of Missouri has resigned.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#243821: May 29th 2018 at 2:45:44 PM

Did he give a reason?

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#243822: May 29th 2018 at 2:46:03 PM

[up][up] Here's a link.

[up] Link doesn't say, but I assume it's because of all the mounting cases against him, including the one in Missouri's Congress to impeach him.

Good riddance to that scum. My greatest hope would be for Trump to do the same, sooner rather then later.

edited 29th May '18 2:47:07 PM by DingoWalley1

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#243823: May 29th 2018 at 3:06:14 PM

He was facing down sexual misconduct charges, among other things, and had a special prosecutor assigned to boot.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#243824: May 29th 2018 at 3:46:42 PM

Missouri governor Greitens resigns.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#243825: May 29th 2018 at 4:39:52 PM

Good news. I remember him bragging about making a fight of it, and it seemed like a judge was on his side. Now, if he could just fuck off forever, that'd be perfect.


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