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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
One, you can in fact be banned from forums and not editing, but that's off topic.
Two, it's ok to be angry, but if you keep letting yourself say awful things like this because you're angry, it's going to create a bad environment for discussion. Like, a lot of us are angry, but we don't frequently post about how awful the country is all the time and how the country is over and other places are the lands of saints. Or talk about how an oppressive empire should have crushed one of their colonies just because things are bad right now.
Perspective is important in this conversation, and if all you want to do is vent there's like, Yack Fest or something to go post in. Not here.
Yeah, and most of us shut that down as well, because it's not fucking helpful.
edited 25th May '18 10:28:56 PM by AceofSpades
Moving on, people in South Korea protest and condemn Trump after his canceled summit talks with North Korea
.. Supporters say this is Trump flexing his muscles in making people respect America again while others feel it's more of "U.S. is doing this and you're going to follow it whether you like it or not.
North Korea effectively got legitimization, and both it and China got to see the US knock itself down a peg or ten.
Apparently what she needs to have happen to win basically looks like this:
The math for Abrams looks (roughly) like this: Win 90 percent of the nonwhite vote. (That's doable in part because the vast majority of that electorate is black voters.) Make sure nonwhites are 40 percent of the electorate through intense get-out-the-vote efforts. (That's at least plausible because almost 40 percent of Georgia's citizen voting-age population is nonwhite.) Win 25 percent of the white vote. (That's doable without Abrams being particularly strong in rural areas because a huge part of the Georgia white population is in the Atlanta suburbs.)
In Georgia's last Gubenatorial race in 2014, the Republican won by just about 200,000 votes, and approximately a million African-American voters didn't turn out to vote that year. So pulling a Doug Jones and getting a massive turnout in black vote alone would be a huge step forward. The other part though is making sure there isn't a regressive white backlash. Fortunately it's likely to be a bad year for Republicans and it's likely that their turnout is going to be lowered and turnout among liberals, especially white young liberals, will be up. Hopefully that's enough to put her over the top.
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Not to mention he still might hold it anyway.
The President said lines of communication had opened between the two countries after officials said Thursday that the North Koreans had become unresponsive, leading to the planned summit's cancellation.
"We're going to see what happens. We're talking to them now. It was a very nice statement they put out," Trump said on the South Lawn before departing in his helicopter for the US Naval Academy in Maryland, where he is delivering a commencement address.
"We'll see what happens. It could even be the 12th. We're talking to them now," he said. "They very much want to do it. We'd like to do it.
There's a lot more to the article, but that's the relevant bit.
edited 26th May '18 7:33:35 AM by kkhohoho
Trump never does anything by half-measures... which means he lacks any semblance of nuance.
The worst part is that it may not have been intentional - Trump is just that inept at actually honoring deals (or at least not ones that grossly favor his position), as we've seen time and again.
edited 26th May '18 8:18:59 AM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
x4, x5 They got a little closer to the South by acting reasonable at their meeting, they got a set of exercises canceled and probably had the controls on their border with the Chinese loosened.
They just gave Trump enough rope to hang himself with, which seems to be a strategy he’s completely unable to counter.
edited 26th May '18 7:53:56 AM by archonspeaks
They should have sent a poet.There's a lot more to the article, but that's the relevant bit.
A dark part of me hopes that Trump does say it's back on and then Kim does immediately cancel on him. Just to see Trump embarrassed and the reaction of all his brain dead Breitbart supporters who "defended" the summit cancellation because "That's what a true alpha does when someone else is meeting the terms they want. Take what I offer or walk away! MAGA!"
A sequence where Trump cancels a meeting because "North Korea said totes mean things!", then runs to reestablish it the second Kim shows a hint of still wanting to talk only to get turned down would be darkly hilarious, both because it would trigger Trump's pathological fear of being humiliated and shamed, and his followers would get to see him looking like a pathetic, gullible worm, changing direction with every word from someone else. (Not that most of them would admit it, even to themselves, they'd find a way to rationalize it away.)
Yeah, this wouldn't be a good thing, especially since Trump would do something horrible in response to being shown up like that, and I fully recognize these impulses aren't practical or productive... but we all have our dark side, and we all enjoy a bit of schadenfreude every now and then.
(Sidenote: Lots of people in the Trump administration are trying to use NK going silent and not participating in a prep meeting as an excuse for cancelling the summit. Of course, if they had bothered to listen to briefing about North Korea at all, they'd know that tons of silence and keeping everyone waiting until the last possible minute is the standard NK operating tactic.)
edited 26th May '18 8:41:08 AM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |The latest theme of trump tweets seem to be "blame the dems for everything
Yesterday evening
Funny to watch the Democrats criticize Trade Deals being negotiated by me when they don’t even know what the deals are and when for 8 years the Obama Administration did NOTHING on trade except let other countries rip off the United States. Lost almost $800 Billion/year under “O”
Senator Schumer and Obama Administration let phone company ZTE flourish with no security checks. I closed it down then let it reopen with high level security guarantees, change of management and board, must purchase U.S. parts and pay a $1.3 Billion fine. Dems do nothing.......but complain and obstruct. They made only bad deals (Iran) and their so-called Trade Deals are the laughing stock of the world!
Today
Unlike what the Failing and Corrupt New York Times would like people to believe, there is ZERO disagreement within the Trump Administration as to how to deal with North Korea...and if there was, it wouldn’t matter. The @nytimes has called me wrong right from the beginning!
The Failing @nytimes quotes “a senior White House official,” who doesn’t exist, as saying “even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.” WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.
Now I know that's true.

I'm just going to point out that there were attempts at trying to get a peaceful resolution before the Revolutionary War. It wasn't something that a bunch of guys suddenly decided was a good idea. There were a lot of preceding incidents and quite a bit of dickery on the side of the British regarding how they treated the colonists at the time.
(Also going to point out the British basically started the slave trade. We don't get to call the British better than the US simply because they stopped doing the thing they started to begin with. And they still didn't stop being dicks all across the world.)