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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The real "elites" are the Mercers, the Kotchs, and the Putin's, who believe their money and influence makes them above the law.
Something I was thinking about lately.
We already know that Russia, Cambrige Analytica, and God knows who else, used Hybrid Warfare tactics (Information Warfare, hacking, funneling money through domestic entities/shell companies based in the US to illegally fund campaigns, etc), to try to influence the US election.
The million dollar question however, and the one that we will never have an absolutely definitive answer to, is, was it effective? Did they actually manage to sway the election in Trump's favor?
So I want to get your opinions. Do you think this was enough to sway the election?
edited 22nd May '18 8:35:57 PM by megaeliz
There's the weird element of American culture.
Elliot from Mr. Robot is a conspiracy theorist who believes the government is overstepping itself, murdering people, misusing technology, and subverting democracy.
He's correct in his universe and a Leftist would very likely agree with him about our world.
Alex Jones believes the same but his government is Jews, homosexuals, and liberals.
So both sides with The Illuminati but who composes them is different.
edited 22nd May '18 8:38:17 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.![]()
Don't forget the decades of GOP propaganda demonizing HRC. Wyldchyld brought it up a while back that it's similar to the Brexit vote. The Leavers had been preparing for decades before the actual referendum.
And as she said, it's a testament to the resilience of the electorate that the votes were as close as they were.
Disgusted, but not surprised![]()
Yeah, that's part of why I'm not overly fond of America's obsession with opposing the establishment. It's something every side of politics invokes to make themselves seem good.
Well, if it's any consolation, and speaking only for myself, Trump's win and time in office have soured me on anti-establishment candidates.
I always valued competence and ability anyway, but it drives the point home when we have a President whose tweets, when made by others, are dumbed down so people believe they were actually written by the President of the United States of America.
I've heard that too, but didn't look into it.
http://time.com/5288058/kentucky-republican-primary-travisb-brenda/
Here's the first story I came across on it
edited 22nd May '18 10:05:45 PM by sgamer82
This is a local election and primarying someone because you disagree with their education policy (Shell co-authored a bill that moved all future teachers into a hybrid pension system. Lawmakers passed it on one of the last days of the legislative session, hurrying it through. It was never available for the public to read before the vote.
) is a logical decision.
I've been researching the different presidents and vice presidents. I'm wondering...is any American here descended from a US President or US Vice President? Just wondering, since some of them lived a long time ago and had a lot of kids(looking at you John Tyler) there'd probably be a few tropers who are
The conservative rejection of "the elite" is based in Anti-Intellectualism, not anti-wealth. Expertise is rejected in favor of "plain common sense," and anyone who thinks they have a knowledge-based plan is acting like they know better than you. In an aggressively democratic society like the US, the voters aren't cool with being told that they don't know as much as the people with degrees in this stuff, and conservative media is excellent at giving them validation in this view. So is Donald Trump, for that matter.
Yeah. To liberals, the definition that was posted applies (which means essentially plutocrats, on both ends of the bribes). To "conservatives", "the elite" is intellectuals, because the plutocrats say it is. And their flock eats it up.
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."To quote Socrates after he was in an argument:
Apparently, the odds of a Democratic victory in this year's midterms just got narrower
. Is this a temporary lapse, or something we should be afraid of?
edited 23rd May '18 5:31:06 AM by ElSquibbonator
The damage is already done, though. If you build a platform around being "against the elites," the crowd the party attracts would be anti-Semites, anti-intellectuals, isolationists, conspiracy theorists, and maybe like one or two genuine social democrats.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."You really can't build a campaign that is based in excusively fight-the-other even if you used the right other.
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