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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I am extremely skeptical of the idea of limiting ammo.
In rural areas guns are necessary for self-defense and stopping animals from harming your property, the former might be compatible with a ammo limit but the latter certainly is not. Frankly this is the kind of idea that I think has more costs then benefits and I don't see why it should be pursued over proper gun control.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangHow do you acquire ammo if you don't have any? What if cases get lost? What about the people that're over the limit when the law goes into effect? Is ammo pooling allowed? How do we deal with the black market (that manufacturers will be encouraging)? What about black powder rifles? Do we have a way of stopping forgeries? Are there exceptions for ranges? If so, how do we keep the ammo there?
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a20748027/paul-ryan-farm-bill-bad-speaker/
Paul Ryan has lost most of control of the Republican party.
No surprise there.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.@Ammo limits: The other thing is also that making ammo and cases for it is pretty easy with the right know-how.
edited 18th May '18 7:08:36 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34
Yeah, I was talking to someone who grew up with a Vietnamese kid (who's now a preacher) who learned how to fill ammunition when he was a tween. Granted, it still takes the right tools and know-how, but it's not as complex as some might assume - the fancy stuff (armor piercing, hollow point, etc.) would be largely off the table, but those bans won't happen anyway.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"If there wasn’t already tons of ammo out there it wouldn’t, but with how much is already in circulation people can break any ammo limit by just already having over the limit and reloading it at home.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranAmmo is also a lot easier to smuggle than guns are. If you really want to restrict the ability of mass murderers to use firearms, you just make them more expensive (increasing the licensing fees will work). The more they cost, the fewer there are, and the less likely they are to be used in a mass shooting. An AR-15 costs less than $450 dollars on the internet now. Double that, and you would probably half the number of times they get used in mass shootings (and not just the AR-15, but any magazine fed semi-auto weapon).
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.You’d massively reduce the number of idiots and bad actors with access to firearms if you banned private sales of firearms, put all sales though licensed firearm dealers and things will improve.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranOh my end, I have to wonder if the lack of firearms would result in more amateur bombs or car attacks.
Spree killings are made easier by firearms.
The urge is still there for them.
edited 18th May '18 8:33:42 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Bombs are generally more difficult to make while cars tend to be easier for people to dodge than bullets (also it takes longer to get a car up to speed than it does to aim a gun).
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranNo, it will absolutely make them harder and that's worthwhile in of itself.
But the desire for terrorist Whitman attacks is still there.
I'd personally love to know what was driving these people and see how we can address that.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.I imagine it's mostly a Herostratus thing. They want to be remembered and talked about.
Leviticus 19:34I would highly suggest checking out Massachusetts Gun Laws as a possible model. It's not perfect, but could easily be a model for what National Gun Legislation could look like.
Wanna know how common and normal school shootings are? A student at the Santa Fe high school knew her school was going to get shot eventually because school shootings in the area are so common now.
The fact that students are expecting their schools to be shot up at any moment is....well, see M64's sig.
Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.

Prohibit selling more ammo without returning an equal number of cases.
Bonus points, you get the metal back.