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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The funny thing is that a lot of the jobs these people whine about losing aren't actually jobs any of them wanted to take in the first place. That's sort of why migrants were able to get those jobs — nobody else was taking them.
The UK's facing a similar issue with the impending loss of a ton of EU migrant workers due to Brexit.
edited 4th May '18 1:30:34 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedIf not for racism, illegal immigrants are undeniably a net boon for Americans.
They commit less crime than the national average, they pay taxes, they don't benefit from entitlements, they lowers costs of everything by providing cheap labor, they do the jobs others don't want.
Seriously. They're a capitalist's dream.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Question, given Amercias' rather stupid levels of pushback to any thing that could posibly be construed as socalisim... like basic income or wellfare packages.
Yet the fact the country seems to be facing massive issues with jobs, and unemployable people....
Has there ever been any serious attempt at some kind of goverment gaurenteed job program?
edited 4th May '18 1:35:22 PM by Imca
A lot of the ones whining about socialism and welfare queens probably depend on a gov't program that is technically welfare to survive. They just aren't aware of it because no welfare program in the USA is actually called welfare by name.
It's kind of like how people who voted hoping to get rid of Obamacare didn't realize it was actually the ACA which they relied on for health insurance.
edited 4th May '18 1:43:26 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedWould you say that the programs introduced by the New Deal were at least Fair for Its Day, or do you think they were racist even by the standards of the 1930s?
No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!![]()
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I think your right given that a lot of them respond well to all the parts of socalisim individualy, until you call it that...
Much like obamacare.
Any way, could some one explain the new deal to me? It gets mentioned a lot, but the Wikipedia article just ended in confusion.
edited 4th May '18 1:45:07 PM by Imca
They were Fair for Its Day, but their modern day hagiography isn't.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."If by Fair for Its Day you mean they didn't treat black people even shittier than before, I guess? The New Deal still kind of fucked them over for generations.
edited 4th May '18 1:44:45 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedOr that many of the things they take for granted are socialist.
Its why the Republicans fought Obamacare like it was smallpox.
They knew, and they were right, that poor people's hatred of Obama would develop a big blind spot to the fact their kids don't have to die due to insufficient medical care once they started getting checks.
Not that it kept them from voting for Trump
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.My opinion of the New Deal was that it helped a massive number of desperately in need white people and was awesome. Because white poor people are still poor people in desperate need of relief.
And we can damn well hate the fact it didn't do that much for black people.
Let alone address anything with segregation.
Even this very biased source is trying hard to come up with good things to say about its handling of African American issues.
http://rooseveltinstitute.org/african-americans-and-new-deal-look-back-history/
edited 4th May '18 1:49:21 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.@Imca
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edited 4th May '18 1:49:40 PM by DeMarquis
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.Yeah, it did. No argument there.
It's rough, though. I spent most of middle school idolizing FDR and seeing him as one of history's greatest heroes... and then I learned about shit like the Japanese internment camps, the denial of thousands of Jewish refugees, and now the racist legacy of the New Deal.
Broken Pedestal, yo.
edited 4th May '18 1:52:26 PM by TyeDyeWildebeest
No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!Malcolm Reynolds said it best about everyone who had a statue made of them.
On the other hand, the New Deal's effect on Appalachia can't be understated either. It changed the way of life down here.
And I can't ignore that either.
Which I suppose makes me Stannis.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.

Regarding "Trump inspired all these characters" thing:
The Biff one, at least, is pretty much bunk
. I'd venture some of them are stretches as well.
Schrek and Kingpin in particular sound suuuuuuuuuuuuper dodgy.
edited 4th May '18 1:30:58 PM by Larkmarn
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