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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#240801: May 2nd 2018 at 5:05:41 PM

He uses the hashtag #Send In A Marine,

This is what I say to that.

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#240802: May 2nd 2018 at 5:10:03 PM

[up]

Ironic also in that Mueller is a former Marine, and also served in 'Nam.

Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240803: May 2nd 2018 at 5:15:45 PM

And Trump himself is a draft dodger.

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#240804: May 2nd 2018 at 5:17:14 PM

For those interested, here's Mueller's service records as a Marine in Vietnam, 1968-70.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#240806: May 2nd 2018 at 5:20:57 PM

The Nobel Peace prize has lost a lot of its prestige with Kissenger and Obama.
I may regret asking this, after the Indian farmer thing, but while I can see Kissinger, why Obama?

edited 2nd May '18 5:21:10 PM by sgamer82

Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240807: May 2nd 2018 at 5:21:16 PM

I think Mueller being a Republican is a good thing - it makes him harder to attack on partisan grounds, not that it stopped Trump.

[up]Obama's been criticized for expanding and more aggressively using the drone program, IIRC.

edited 2nd May '18 5:22:17 PM by Raptorslash

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#240808: May 2nd 2018 at 5:21:34 PM

I almost don't even care what these people have to say any more. "X Republican politician said a horrific thing" is a story run multiple times a day, at this point it barely even matters what horrific thing they said. There's no point in even trying to issue rebuttals, this stuff is so fractally wrong it's pointless to engage with. We just need to make sure it's written down somewhere so we can throw it in their faces later and move on.

[up][up] Typically the problem people have is that Obama massively expanded the drone program and the use of targeted killings. He was also the first president ever to preside over a war during all eight years in office, and authorized military action in seven different countries.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of what he did, but many people see that as at odds with receiving a peace prize.

edited 2nd May '18 5:27:32 PM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#240809: May 2nd 2018 at 5:21:44 PM

[up][up][up]Probably because all Obama really did (at the time or receiving the award) was not be Bush. That seems to be the common retort, and I don't see a lot of people really disputing it.

edited 2nd May '18 5:22:23 PM by LSBK

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#240810: May 2nd 2018 at 5:24:29 PM

[up][up]

I just go "bloody reactionaries" whenever I see a similar headline, shrug and continue hoping for the midterms.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#240811: May 2nd 2018 at 5:29:01 PM

[up][up]Obama himself has lampshaded that he didn't have to do much to get a Nobel.

Leviticus 19:34
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#240812: May 2nd 2018 at 5:54:13 PM

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Agreed - Obama genuinely didn't deserve it, especially at that point in his tenure, and he kind of admitted as much during his speech. But at the same time, I've never heard of someone outright declining to accept a Nobel Peace Prize.

edited 2nd May '18 5:59:00 PM by ironballs16

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#240813: May 2nd 2018 at 6:11:50 PM

Giving a Nobel Peace Prize to a sitting politician is purely a propaganda victory, which is why it's essential that Trump never receive one. If he's memorialized in any way, it should be only in burning effigy.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#240814: May 2nd 2018 at 6:13:45 PM

[up] As much as I despise Trump, lets not go full Tea Party.

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#240815: May 2nd 2018 at 6:25:29 PM

So, about the so-called blue wave. . . With Trump's approval going up, is that still a possibility? Or is four more years of Trump the price we have to pay for peace in Korea?

edited 2nd May '18 6:25:42 PM by ElSquibbonator

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#240816: May 2nd 2018 at 6:28:33 PM

[up] I'd say so. Except among his base, Trump is still incredibly unpopular.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#240817: May 2nd 2018 at 6:33:50 PM

The recent events in Korea actually have me hoping that he'll fuck something up sooner or later as he usually does. There gotta be some supernatural shit going on if the Teflon Don can withstand ''this much criticism".

RabidTanker God-Mayor of Sim-Kind Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
#240818: May 2nd 2018 at 6:35:11 PM

Hey guys, this might be off-topic and all; but what do you normally consider good artwork when it comes to politicians?

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Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240819: May 2nd 2018 at 6:36:27 PM

I honestly don't know what it is that allows Trump to deflect scandal the way he does other than the fact that his base simply doesn't care.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240820: May 2nd 2018 at 6:36:55 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Should also note that Trump's approval rating doesn't necessarily help or hinder the other GOP candidates' chances.

[up] The only thing any of them care about is if he acts less bigoted and isolationist than they want.

edited 2nd May '18 6:37:50 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#240821: May 2nd 2018 at 6:37:39 PM

[up][up][up]You're right. That is off-topic. Care to talk about something relevant and note-worthy instead?tongue

edited 2nd May '18 6:37:50 PM by kkhohoho

Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240822: May 2nd 2018 at 6:42:31 PM

How likely is Trump to face some kind of opposition within the Republicans in 2020? He's already filed to run again.

On that note, both his campaign slogans - "Make America Great Again" and "Keep America Great" are incredibly vague and pretty vapid. They don't really say anything on their own.

edited 2nd May '18 6:43:05 PM by Raptorslash

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240823: May 2nd 2018 at 6:43:31 PM

[up] He will face no opposition from the GOP in 2020. That'd be electoral suicide for the GOP.

His slogan being vague is precisely why it worked for his base. It was short and simple.

edited 2nd May '18 6:46:06 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#240824: May 2nd 2018 at 6:45:50 PM

I mean that's propaganda, for good or for bad. Obama had "Change" as his slogan. That's also really vague.

phrases like that can imply exactly what you want it to be, without having to specify. So you make it what you want it to be.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240825: May 2nd 2018 at 6:46:43 PM

@El Squibbonator

Also, I noticed the source you linked was an op-ed as opposed to an actual article. It's a step up from using Infowars as a source, I guess.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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