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Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240526: Apr 30th 2018 at 8:52:41 PM

The alt-right uses the internet and social media as a recruitment ground and to spread its ideals. Russian trolls used everywhere from Reddit to Facebook to Tumblr to spread misinformation and distrust. They are good at this, and they won't stop or go away, because it's working.

We need more people like Hdbomberguy and Counterpoint to counter them. We don't have to give them a platform, but we can't let their beliefs go unchallenged, because they are actively and aggressively recruiting people, especially young people.

edited 30th Apr '18 8:54:34 PM by Raptorslash

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#240527: Apr 30th 2018 at 8:59:02 PM

Basically, don't confront them head-on, but make videos explaining why their views/arguments are BS.

[up]x4 Would just even work against Mueller? Seems like if he comes to Trump with these questions he's not coming out victorious.

edited 30th Apr '18 9:01:31 PM by PhysicalStamina

i'm tired, my friend
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#240528: Apr 30th 2018 at 9:04:21 PM

As much as Trump/the GOP need to be the primary target, her being discredited (if not indicted) would be cathartic.

Stein can’t be discredited because she’s never been credible. The people who believe her won’t belive it if she’s indicted over Russia, they’ve been blind to facts for years, they’re not going to start listening now.

edited 30th Apr '18 9:04:41 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#240529: Apr 30th 2018 at 9:10:15 PM

BREAKING NEWS: Temporary Director of ICE, Thomas Homan, is retiring effective immediately.

I would say this is good news, but then I remember Trump is in charge, and he's just going to nominate someone worse then this guy. I don't know who the new Acting Director will be, though. They could be better; they could be worse. At least this guy is gone.

Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240530: Apr 30th 2018 at 9:11:29 PM

If there's something we've learned, it's that Trump can always dredge up someone worse.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240531: Apr 30th 2018 at 9:25:34 PM

With our luck, it'll be fucking Arpaio.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#240532: Apr 30th 2018 at 9:30:25 PM

Don't jinx it.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#240533: Apr 30th 2018 at 9:54:38 PM

I don't think Mueller will let Trump word vomit his way out of these questions. He's not at a rally; he's undergoing questioning. And if he can't defend himself with proper answers, or better yet admits to exactly what he's claiming he didn't do, then all the better.

It's been fun.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#240534: Apr 30th 2018 at 10:24:12 PM

Kelly thinks he's saving U.S. from disaster, calls Trump 'idiot,' say White House staffers

WASHINGTON — White House chief of staff John Kelly has eroded morale in the West Wing in recent months with comments to aides that include insulting the president's intelligence and casting himself as the savior of the country, according to eight current and former White House officials.

The officials said Kelly portrays himself to Trump administration aides as the lone bulwark against catastrophe, curbing the erratic urges of a president who has a questionable grasp on policy issues and the functions of government. He has referred to Trump as "an idiot" multiple times to underscore his point, according to four officials who say they've witnessed the comments.

In one heated exchange between the two men before February's Winter Olympics in South Korea, Kelly strongly — and successfully — dissuaded Trump from ordering the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from the Korean Peninsula, according to two officials.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#240535: Apr 30th 2018 at 11:05:03 PM

[up]He might be right, tho.

Any bets on when he's getting shitcanned?

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240536: Apr 30th 2018 at 11:06:41 PM

After this I don't see him lasting to the end of this week.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#240537: Apr 30th 2018 at 11:14:56 PM

That said, he's denying it rather firmly, so Trump might just dismiss this as "Fake News". And for all we know, this isn't true or it is a half-truth.

Kelly has endured worse.

And frankly, as awful as Kelly is, I'd rather him have be there with some basic moderation/knowledge of governance than Trump firing him and using Fox & Friends as his Co S.

edited 30th Apr '18 11:16:40 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#240538: Apr 30th 2018 at 11:58:20 PM

Allegations of disloyalty, true or false, are usually when the competent servant gets the axe when the emperor is a paranoid megalomaniac. The notion being mentioned that the vastly more qualified — if equally morally bankrupt — Kelly thought Trump was a moron would probably be enough to make Trump think having him around is bad.

edited 1st May '18 1:55:10 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Imca (Veteran)
#240539: May 1st 2018 at 3:03:34 AM

Whenever right-wingers mention Orwell - especially 1984, as they did with Obama - it's ironic, because I get the feeling they don't know or care what Orwell's actual politics were, or assume that just because he opposed communism he was one of them.

It was a page or two back, but I am actually curious about that now, what were Orwell's actual politics?

edited 1st May '18 3:03:44 AM by Imca

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#240541: May 1st 2018 at 3:12:38 AM

Dude actually traveled to Spain to fight for the socialists there.

It's also why he wrote such scathing allegories about the Reds like Animal Farm. He absolutely hated the Soviet Union and how it twisted his beliefs.

Oh really when?
Imca (Veteran)
#240542: May 1st 2018 at 3:16:59 AM

So he was Pro-Socialism, but Anti-Communism?

I can see why people get that confused given that the two seem to have become interchangeable to a lot of people, even when they are extremely different.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#240543: May 1st 2018 at 3:25:50 AM

More anti-Leninism / Stalinism.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#240544: May 1st 2018 at 3:29:21 AM

Communism is arguably a purely hypothetical ideology that's never been actually exercised or carried out.

The Reds were far from Communists.

Oh really when?
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#240545: May 1st 2018 at 3:34:31 AM

I remind people, Trump was a birther.

THE Birther.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#240546: May 1st 2018 at 4:20:03 AM

1984 was also written against the backdrop of Stalin's terror policies - it wasn't necessarily (as it's often taken) solely an indictment of fascism. Although there is definitely an anti-fascist streak to it as well, and unlike Animal Farm it's not wholly allegorical, there is a fair amount of Stalinist terror woven into the DNA of 1984.

Orwell wandered through the left-wing spectrum most of his life.

edited 1st May '18 4:20:31 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#240547: May 1st 2018 at 5:05:08 AM

This is from a few pages back, but it caught my eye:

"Even shit like My Little Pony has messages like, "The Native Americans were equally responsible for the unpleasantries of colonial America and if they had just embraced the superiority of the white settlers' culture, everything would have been fine."

Which episode was this? I honestly don't remember this message.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#240548: May 1st 2018 at 5:07:39 AM

[up] "Over a Barrel", if I'm not mistaken.

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#240550: May 1st 2018 at 6:13:32 AM

[up][up][up]'Twas a pretty good episode on the value of negotiation and compromise. Unfortunately, it was set to a Wild West theme, which resulted in some Unfortunate Implications.


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