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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#240226: Apr 28th 2018 at 9:24:18 PM

I mean, so many shitbags have won Nobel Peace Prizes that the award is practically without merit at this point.

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#240227: Apr 28th 2018 at 9:38:20 PM

A nomination is pretty easy, I think Putin has some stooges that nominate him every year.

Trump isn’t going to win though, the closest he will get to the peace prize is maybe pulling a Bush and having his successor get the peace prize for not being Trump (same as Obama got the peace prize for not being Bush).

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Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240228: Apr 28th 2018 at 9:40:54 PM

Putin is even more unlikely to win a Peace Prize than Trump is, between invading other countries, his treatment of Russian dissenters, and fiddling in elections.

edited 28th Apr '18 9:41:03 PM by Raptorslash

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#240229: Apr 28th 2018 at 10:20:10 PM

[up]x5

What are the chances of Trump actually getting a Nobel nomination?

{vomits profusely}

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#240230: Apr 28th 2018 at 10:30:43 PM

[up]Is that good or bad?

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#240231: Apr 28th 2018 at 10:42:42 PM

[up]Neither. Just that the sheer thought of such a thing happening makes me want to hurl.tongue

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#240232: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:47:41 PM

@Nixon and Watergate: It should be noted that by the time Nixon resigned, Congress was completely controlled by Democrats. I mean like five months after Nixon resigned, the Democrats was in control of a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and a two-third majority in the House. Had the impeachment process went through, Democrats would have only needed 7 Republican Senators to side with them to not only impeach Nixon but remove him from office. Impeachment was already assured with Nixon at the point he resigned, and while conviction was a question, it was ultimately better for Nixon to resign and have Ford pardon him than it would be for him to stay in office.

As for Trump, I think he will stay in office as a lame duck until 2020 and then be tried in a criminal court for his crimes once he returns to being a private citizen again. Trump's not going to have the foresight or intelligence to see that his best option once he becomes a lame duck in 2018 is to resign and let Pence (or whoever his VP becomes) pardon him, nor is he going to trust Pence to pardon him instead of Pence doing what Ford didn't and letting his predecessor be tried for his crimes. While I think the House could impeach Trump, I don't think the Senate will convict him.

edited 29th Apr '18 12:05:16 AM by GameGuruGG

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#240233: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:49:02 PM

A friend of mine gave the thought that Trump actually lucked into helping make peace possible the way he lucked into being a billionaire by being born from the right sperm. He came into power on promising to restore the dying and dead industry of America coal, negotiated with China to buy US coal, and that coal cut off North Korea which can only produce a small amount anyway due to slave labor.

Which seriously derailed one last decent export.

It's probably not true for a variety of reasons but I could see Trump bumbling into successs.

A less humorous version is that Kim didn't actually murder his uncle and brother but China did and this is his way of trying to protect himself (or what they wanted).

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#240234: Apr 29th 2018 at 4:48:08 AM

It appears to have more to do the last nuclear test. Kim's attitude has undergone this apparent change since that sixth test. Chinese scientists have confirmed that the nuclear test site has partially collapsed since the sixth test, making the test site unusable.

He's therefore promising to give up something he can't use. Significantly, his promise is only to give up testing — it does not include a promise to give up his already existing nuclear weapons, and it does not cover the short-range missiles that can reach Japan and South Korea.

Edited to add:

According to news today, North Korea is inviting foreign observers to the decommissioning of the test site in May. South Korea is stating that Kim is making the removal of his existing nuclear arsenal dependent on relations with the US improving: if a peace treaty is successful, if the US can convince North Korea to trust them, and if the US signs a non-aggression treaty with North Korea, they'll consider the idea that they no longer need a nuclear arsenal.

edited 29th Apr '18 5:05:11 AM by Wyldchyld

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#240235: Apr 29th 2018 at 5:11:14 AM

Mind you, I think North Korea held out under what was essentially a siege far longer than most countries would have or could have.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#240236: Apr 29th 2018 at 5:13:52 AM

[up][up] So basically, it happened for reason mostly beyond our control, and trump is the last person we want negotiating a peace treaty.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#240237: Apr 29th 2018 at 5:43:11 AM

I dunno, I think folding here like Trump would might actually be the right decision.

The US troops leaving is unlikely to lead to a North Korean Army stomping on the South.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#240238: Apr 29th 2018 at 6:00:14 AM

[up] South Korea would never agree to that.

And I have my doubts Trump would either. He might see that as "defeat" or something weird like that.

edited 29th Apr '18 6:20:12 AM by megaeliz

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#240240: Apr 29th 2018 at 7:39:18 AM

If it couldn't set a dangerous precedent I'd hope someone sues them over this just for the irony.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#240241: Apr 29th 2018 at 8:07:27 AM

I'm immediately reminded of The Daily Show segment where Roy Wood, Jr went to the pro-gun counter protest to the March For Our Lives.

They also forbade guns.

edited 29th Apr '18 8:09:38 AM by sgamer82

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#240242: Apr 29th 2018 at 8:37:44 AM

If anyone deserves a Nobel for the (possible) end of the Korean war, its South Korea's President, not Trump.

Coleman Since: May, 2016
#240243: Apr 29th 2018 at 8:58:49 AM

I know a good award for trump. It's called "The most likely to be slapped by a glove" award for his closed minded and loose cannon twitter account(or in general) amongst other things. But that's just me.

edited 29th Apr '18 9:01:25 AM by Coleman

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#240244: Apr 29th 2018 at 9:00:10 AM

Comedian Faces Criticism After Controversial Remarks At D.C. Gala

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/29/606834453/comedian-faces-criticism-after-controversial-remarks-at-d-c-gala

President Trump's absence for the second year in a row from the annual White House Correspondents' Dinner may end up being the least controversial thing about Saturday night's gathering of the White House press corps.

Chatter online among journalists and some in the administration's orbit after the event was full of criticism for comedian Michelle Wolf, who was the evening's headliner; criticism and soul-searching about the annual event itself; and an effort by former White House press secretary Sean Spicer to pressure the leadership of the White House Correspondents' Association into answering for Wolf's vulgar, personal jabs leveled primarily at the president and his inner circle.

The comedian spoke for roughly 20 minutes to a ballroom full of Washington's top journalists and political operatives. As the Washington Post's Paul Farhi wrote, Wolf's remarks "swerved from raunchy to downright nasty."

"She was particularly hard on the women associated with Trump," Farhi wrote, adding "several cracks about [White House press secretary] Sarah Huckabee Sanders landed poorly." (Courtesy of two of Farhi's colleagues at the Post, here's a list of Wolf's "harshest" jokes.) And Politico said Wolf's performance "was a risque and uneven routine at first met with laughs but often greeted by awkward silence."

The comedic routine laced with sexual innuendo and, at times, dominated by outright vulgarities was directed primarily at Republicans and conservatives — a fact not lost on those in the room who expressed their displeasure on Twitter afterward.

"My wife @mercedesschlapp and I walked out early from the wh correspondents dinner. Enough of elites mocking all of us," Matt Schlapp posted on Twitter just before 11 p.m. Schlapp is the chairman of the American Conservative Union and his wife, Mercedes, is part of the White House's communications team.

Couple links from the article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2018/04/29/the-harshest-jokes-from-michelle-wolfs-correspondents-dinner-speech/?utm_term=.1b75a702d7e3 -A list of the harshest jokes mentioned in the excerpt.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/28/white-house-correspondents-dinner-2018-trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-559190 - Politico's take

There's also plenty of Twitter responses quoted and linked to

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#240245: Apr 29th 2018 at 9:03:05 AM

[up] Here's the Sanders bit:

So you can judge for yourselves.

edited 29th Apr '18 9:05:10 AM by megaeliz

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#240246: Apr 29th 2018 at 9:30:16 AM

They can deal it but they just can't take it.evil grin

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#240247: Apr 29th 2018 at 9:40:15 AM

Well what the hell did they think they were getting from her?

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#240248: Apr 29th 2018 at 9:58:21 AM

What's with all the flowers on the table?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#240249: Apr 29th 2018 at 10:03:01 AM

Poison Ivy was in attendance.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#240250: Apr 29th 2018 at 10:05:05 AM

Anyone who mocks them are "elites" now? I didn't know that could apply to comedians.

PS: if you're being regularly mocked, there's probably a reason.

edited 29th Apr '18 10:06:18 AM by RainehDaze


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