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Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240051: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:30:04 PM

So there's no way a Democratic administration could undo that rule?

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#240052: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:32:07 PM

[up] Appoint new head, ask them to replace the rule immediately.

Look, unless something needs the approval of both parts of Congress, it can be easily undone, the hard part is cataloguing it in the litany of Trump sins to not be forgotten and the damage in the interim.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#240053: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:33:46 PM

Depending on how much inertia it gets behind it, it could be difficult to undo. You know, like how CDC can't do research on gun violence.

But yeah, saying this could permanently damage how the EPA does its thing seems a little alarmist, though with Pruitt that may be the point. He's doing a pretty good job of tanking the organization he's in charge of, and the fact that he's currently mired in scandals may be the only thing that saves the EPA in the short term.

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#240054: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:36:34 PM

The CDC research ban is a congressional mandate. That isn't their fault, it's Congress being too afraid of the NRA.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#240055: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:37:53 PM

How's that coming by the way? I recall the omnibus bill actually put money aside for gun research

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#240056: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:41:57 PM

[up][up]I'm... not sure how that's a coherent response to my statement. This whole rigamarole about limiting what research can be used isn't the CDC's fault either, it's Pruitt's.

Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#240057: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:47:24 PM

What would make repairing the EPA post-Pruitt especially difficult once he's gone, more than the other agencies?

edited 26th Apr '18 9:50:46 PM by Raptorslash

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#240058: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:53:22 PM

[up][up]My point was that it would take Congress making the rule into law for it to be more than a symptom of Pruitt's term.

[up]If he can get anything he's done to be law, that would certainly be trouble. That's why Mulvaney is urging Congress to reduce the CFPB's power, because what he's doing now is temporary.

edited 26th Apr '18 9:54:59 PM by TheRoguePenguin

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#240060: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:14:31 PM

Again, anything to get as many immigrants out of the country as possible.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240061: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:19:27 PM

[up] The ones that aren't white, at any rate. For now.

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#240062: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:26:06 PM

For now.

Oh man, can you imagine the right-wing fallout if Trump ever decided to deport any number of Swedish immigrants for some reason?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240063: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:27:32 PM

[up]They'd probably go after the Irish first. Then again, there was shit Trump said about Sweden a while back.

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#240064: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:33:33 PM

[up] Trump didn't praise them over other non white countries?

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Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#240065: Apr 26th 2018 at 11:33:16 PM

[up][up] No, they'd probably go after Southern Europeans (Gibraltarians, Kosovars, Slovenes (except Melania), Spaniards, Portuguese, Andorrans, Italians, Vatican Citiers, Sammarinese, Maltese, Greeks, Croats, Serbs, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, Macedonians and Albanians) first. White Supremacists consider them inferior to other Europeans.

edited 27th Apr '18 4:17:21 AM by Wariolander

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#240066: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:57:14 AM

[up][up]

The right often holds Sweden as an example of immigration gone wrong. There are problems, but hardly as massive as they'd like you to think.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#240067: Apr 27th 2018 at 2:52:59 AM

The right is obsessed with portraying Sweden and Germany as struggling hard because those countries are known to have taken a lot of refugees and they really, really don't want this to go without a hitch. Which it didn't so far, but none of the problems were something unexpected or unsolvable.

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#240068: Apr 27th 2018 at 4:53:07 AM

So, the Korean peace talks are making significant progress.

Trump, of course, will be claiming every last inch of credit for these developments, go on about how he totally scared North Korea into submission, etc. And to some extent, that may be true. I mean, the last Republican president was dumb enough to invade Iraq, and look how that turned out. So what do you think could happen with this moron?

The real elephant in the room is the simple fact of US involvement in the Korean War, and the 28,500 military personnel stationed in the South. And no doubt think Trump thinks this puts him in the decisive position, to bring North Korea to the table and force them to comply with his demands.

Except North Korea can just leave the table. With the nukes. That's one of the reasons why they have the nukes in the first place.

That would not go over well with the other parties involved, not after this much investment. Especially since, if a nuclear North Korea is indeed truly unacceptable, and economic and diplomatic efforts have failed, that leaves only the military option. I imagine China especially would want to lean on that not happening. But with stuff like Pompeo's secret meeting with Kim, obviously there are people in the administration trying to work things out.

At the same time, Kim also gets to take advantage of Trump's utter apathy for human rights. After all, what's one more brutal authoritarian to get along with? Let Kim and his dynasty rule their kingdom for the foreseeable eternity. In exchange, we end the war, get another one of the axis of evil off our back, and then focus on the last one remaining.

It may be that we will see the absolute climax of Republican hypocrisy: creating a nuclear deal with North Korea, and destroying a nuclear deal with Iran. Hell, maybe even on the same day.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#240069: Apr 27th 2018 at 5:49:03 AM

[up] what scares me is how easy it was for president Macron was able to play him like a fiddle. (Granted, he was there for much less then scary purposes, but still.)

If he was able to that, and he was an ally, what could someone who doesn't have our collective best interests at heart do?

edited 27th Apr '18 5:53:06 AM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#240070: Apr 27th 2018 at 5:49:47 AM

[up] Like Putin? We're already in that situation.

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Lost in Space
#240071: Apr 27th 2018 at 5:50:45 AM

Or what have they already done? The Trump political organization has been shamelessly played by leaders all over the world. It's like a bus load of kindergarteners dropped off with their parents' credit cards at a casino.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#240073: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:15:11 AM

I sometimes just want brainwash all the GOP. It would put them to good use for once.

This Black-and-White Morality situation is really boring and speak volumes about how Humans Are Bastards as long they aren't Left.

(In the current American political paradigm)

[down] I'd wish having so many cellphones

edited 27th Apr '18 6:23:52 AM by KazuyaProta

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#240074: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:22:10 AM

Not sure if this has been brought up already, but the FBI seized and imaged 16 old cellphones from Cohen.

You know, when you buy a burner phone, you're supposed to burn them afterwards....

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#240075: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:30:54 AM

[up][up]Yeah because brainwashing them for the greater good is such a moral thing to do.

edited 27th Apr '18 6:46:58 AM by 3of4

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