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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Hilariously, Trump's interview on Fox and Friends this morning has already been used against him in a court filing
. (Page 4, footnote 3)
edited 26th Apr '18 10:02:31 AM by megaeliz
Bernie Sanders Camp Says Ending Superdelegate ‘Debacle' Key To Defeating Trump In 2020
The AP's forecast was the result of the Democratic National Committee's superdelegate system, which meant that Clinton needed only garner support from enough party delegates to win the presidential nomination. Now, members of the Sanders camp are leading calls to overhaul the system they say continues to leave voters disillusioned with the Democratic Party.
"What happened in 2016 put a bad taste in the mouths of people who believe in fairness and transparency," Turner, the president of Our Revolution, a progressive group inspired by Sanders's presidential campaign, told Newsweek. "The general public may not necessarily get involved in the insider details of the DNC, but most voters know about this superdelegate debacle. That's not the reputation I want my party to have."
Being considered right now is a proposal that would slash the number of superdelegates by 60 percent by depriving members of the DNC of their superdelegate votes in the initial round of voting, giving them the freedom to support whichever candidate they choose should the vote go into a second round. The proposal is the work of the Unity Reform Commission, a committee formed by the Sanders and Clinton campaigns in 2016, aimed at changing the DNC's rules on superdelegates.
Such a change could have made a difference at the fateful June 2016 Sanders rally Turner recalled. Cutting down on the number of superdelegates would mean there would be a higher number of delegates in the Democratic Party who have to cast their votes in accordance with the actual primary results. Under the current system, a Democratic candidate can still claim delegates from a state he or she lost by a wide margin if those delegates are among the roughly 700 superdelegates, the Democratic Party leaders who have the ability to cast their votes however they choose.
DNC officials say this system, as it stands now, will hopefully become a thing of the past.
“The DNC has advanced measures to make clear that the status quo as it relates to superdelegates is off the table for the 2020 presidential nomination process," Michael Tyler, a DNC spokesperson, told Newsweek in an email on Monday. "The DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee is now working diligently to solidify the full DNC’s commitment to reducing the role that superdelegates play and make our nomination process the fairest and most transparent in the history of American presidential politics."
As the efforts press on, former Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver has asked top Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, DNC chair Tom Perez, co-chair Keith Ellison and Clinton herself to renew their commitment to reforming the superdelegate system.
"We believe that the passage of these reforms is a fundamental and necessary step in re-establishing faith with those who have lost confidence in the party as a vehicle for change," Weaver wrote in a letter obtained by Buzz Feed News. "Now is the time to go forward, not backward."
Turner, who took over Weaver's post at Our Revolution in June, said "re-establishing faith" among Democrats will be key if the party wants a shot at turning out voters in 2020 and defeating President Donald Trump.
"We have to show voters—registered Democrats as well as independent voters who lean our way—that we recognize our faults and our failings and that we're willing to correct them," Turner said. "We're saying to millions of voters that the process is open, and we'll commit to a more robust debate and contest than we had in 2016.
We're going to give voters choice," Turner added. "Choice is a beautiful thing."
I don't think we need that to defeat Trump in 2020, but it's a good move by the democratic party to stop some people from being disappointed with its system and encourage them to be more engaged.
Whatever, if it will preempt their whining I'm all for it. Hopefully whatever conspiracy theory they inevitably create when/if their next progressive messiah(TM) is defeated will be less effective due to the absence of super-delegates.
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That is because Republican policies never move forward, meaning they wll never get more complex, so in order to sell it, they rise more and more the appealing part, eventually getting into trump.
edited 26th Apr '18 10:33:29 AM by unknowing
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Not good, not good at all.
Because this was at the bottom of the last page:
Amusingly, Trump's interview on Fox and Friends this morning, already got used against him in a court filing.
(Page 4, footnote 3)
edited 26th Apr '18 10:43:09 AM by megaeliz
Honestly I think Bernie Sanders shouldn't run again. It's clear he's mad at the mean old superdelegates for not electing him, nothing else.
Sadly I know he will run, which means we will get even more nasty (and probably racist, if Booker or Harris is against him) attack ads.
Not really politics but possibly worth notng:
"Jury has reached verdict in Bill Cosby's sexual assault retrial: media" - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-cosby/jury-has-reached-verdict-in-bill-cosbys-sexual-assault-retrial-media-idUSKBN1HX1B7
edited 26th Apr '18 11:36:56 AM by sgamer82
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The Secretary of State has some authority over immigration and trade, so we can expect him to abuse that as much as possible. He's also the head negotiator for foreign policy, and Pompeo has proven himself to be a total blowhard so who knows how that will go.
I can't imagine it'll be more of a mess than it is already though.
They should have sent a poet.Bernie would have lost the primaries even without superdelegates weighing in. You know what? Get rid of superdelegates, have Chairman Perez take a completely hands-off approach, and watch Bernie lose again.
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Fair point, I probably should've said he won't have much direct power.
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My thoughts exactly, this is perfect in that it undercuts those whiners and preemptively deals with possible future problems. I hope they are removed.
Doesn't really matter, super-delegates as being rather obviously undemocratic are the perfect scapegoat for Sanders or other populists to blame for their defeat. If they're removed then populist whining will be less effective.
edited 26th Apr '18 11:17:17 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangSuperdelegates are the Bernie Bros version of "BUT HER EMAILS THO". It's a manufactured scandal used for political gain.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.The bad thing about Pompeo as Sec of State is his hawkishness, particularly when combined with Bolton as National Security Advisor, who was advocating for war with Iran before the end of the year before he ever became NSA.
State, despite usually being one of the most powerful departments, doesn’t do that much on its own. It’s always going to be handicapped by Trump’s need to be the center of attention and his disdain for diplomacy. The bigger worry is Bolton and Pompeo both being devils on Trump’s shoulders and encouraging all of Trump’s worst and most belligerent instincts.
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |I feel that conceding to the Sanders faction about superdelegates would be seen as a form of appeasement that would lead to worse demands down the road. We've seen what happens when the insurgent wing of a party starts to exercise power, and it ain't pretty.
edited 26th Apr '18 11:19:05 AM by Fighteer
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That does actually jive with what we already knew. Very little of what Cohen's done for Trump actually constitutes legal work, which is why only a small percentage of his documents are likely to actually be protected by attorney-client privilege. In fact, IIRC, Cohen doesn't even have access to his own law firm's secure file storage because of how little legal work he does.
This is why Cohen and Trump don't want his files going to a taint team: because they know how little of it will be legally protected. Cohen is what, in organized crime cases, is referred to as a "fixer". He's the guy who solves problems so they don't blow back on his "clients".
For similar reasons, Sean Hannity's claims that he's never received legal representation from Cohen are also probably true. Hannity runs a fraudulent real estate empire through shell companies not unlike the shell companies Cohen used to pay off Trump and Broidy's mistresses. His real estate dealings are Cohen's brand of shady, so he's probably being truthful when he says that his relationship with Cohen was limited to discussing real estate.
This is why Trump and Cohen are f*cking panicking right now, and both have made demands to be allowed to review the evidence before it can go to the prosecutors. Cohen isn't Trump's lawyer. He's Trump's white-collar crime tutor and problem-solver.
edited 26th Apr '18 9:05:16 AM by TobiasDrake
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