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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#239751: Apr 24th 2018 at 5:33:30 AM

Exactly. Trump isn't the disease, he's a particularly nasty symptom of a much greater (and likely incurable) problem.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#239752: Apr 24th 2018 at 5:46:33 AM

[up] In a lot of ways, the Republican Party got overtaken by Fox News and the tea party first. Trump was just the final nail in the coffin.

Also, John Oliver is running this ad on Hannity this week.

Trying to help out Macron I presume.

edited 24th Apr '18 6:40:11 AM by megaeliz

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#239753: Apr 24th 2018 at 6:58:32 AM

Also haven't there been studies showing that states that teach abstinence have higher teen pregnancies than states that teach birth control?

Yes.

There are also studies that show that anti-drug PSAs actually increased substance abuse among kids, but Trump wants to bring those back too.

This is because Republicans are anti-intellectual. They're the party of "feels right". They support abstinence because "If you teach kids not to have sex, they won't get pregnant," is a line of thinking that feels right to their common sense wisdom. So far as they're concerned, no snooty elitist liberal with their charts and their graphs is ever going to undermine the simple wisdom of the common man.

edited 24th Apr '18 6:59:17 AM by TobiasDrake

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#239754: Apr 24th 2018 at 7:15:50 AM

The great irony is that abstinence-only education probably causes more abortions than institutions like Planned Parenthood ever have.

edited 24th Apr '18 7:15:56 AM by DrDougsh

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#239755: Apr 24th 2018 at 7:18:22 AM

This is because Republicans are anti-intellectual. They're the party of "feels right". They support abstinence because "If you teach kids not to have sex, they won't get pregnant," is a line of thinking that feels right to their common sense wisdom.

"Truthiness", as Stephen Colbert would say.

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#239756: Apr 24th 2018 at 7:38:46 AM

[up]Hey, now, don't be associating the word "truthiness" with the Republicans' shit. We programmers use truthiness to determine whether an expression evaluates to null or not.

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#239757: Apr 24th 2018 at 7:46:50 AM

"Truthiness" was coined by Colbert years ago in his very first show to describe the process by which Republicans arrive at tribal knowledge.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#239758: Apr 24th 2018 at 7:56:06 AM

Of course, as Colbert pointed out last summer, we've moved beyond Truthiness to Trumpiness

As The Other Wiki explains

Colbert refreshed "truthiness" in an episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on July 18, 2016, using the neologism "Trumpiness" regarding statements made by Donald Trump during his presidential campaign.[67] According to Colbert, while truthiness refers to statements that feel true but are actually false, "Trumpiness" does not even have to feel true, much less be true. As evidence that Trump's remarks exhibit this quality, he cited a Washington Post column stating that many Trump supporters did not believe his "wildest promises" but supported him anyway.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#239759: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:03:50 AM

When do we abandon neologisms and start calling it "lying" again.

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#239760: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:06:13 AM

[up][up], [up] Not too long ago, my dad said that he identified something called the "Trump lie". Whereas a regular lie involves making a statement that you know to be false, a "Trump lie" involves making a statement when you have no idea whether or not it's true. Perfect example would be his claim that he had the biggest inauguration audience of all time.

edited 24th Apr '18 8:06:36 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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#239761: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:08:00 AM

Trump makes statements that feel true to him at the time. Whatever he says is true, to him, but may or may not have anything to do with his beliefs previously or later. It's the ultimate reflection of his narcissism.

edited 24th Apr '18 8:08:23 AM by Fighteer

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#239762: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:10:55 AM

Trump has so few actually held beliefs that he barely qualifies as a complete human being. The one thing he seems to hold to is the "no drinking alcohol" thing, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that he drinks all the time.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#239763: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:11:43 AM

[up][up] I think the best example was him claiming, to Canadian PM Justin Trudeau's face, that the US has a trade deficit with Canada.

... he actually bragged about not knowing because he thought it was such a brilliant move.

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#239764: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:18:15 AM

That falls under the category of making shit up because he thinks it'll help him look good or strike a deal. It's a slightly different category of Trumpiness.

edited 24th Apr '18 8:18:37 AM by Fighteer

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FyodorDose Since: Mar, 2018
#239765: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:27:19 AM

We need to toss oil and gas and go full nuclear power- nothing even comes close to its efficiency.

edited 24th Apr '18 8:28:51 AM by FyodorDose

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#239766: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:30:07 AM

Okay. Non sequitur noted.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239767: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:33:14 AM

Yeah even if that's true (something I'm skeptical of considering the existence of other forms of renewable energy) that has zero relevance to.... anything.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#239768: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:35:19 AM

I'm going to be honest, FyodorDose, between that out of nowhere comment and the response to whatever got you thumped earlier, I think you're rapidly losing any ability to be taken seriously you might have previously had, if you haven't already.

[down][down] If so, I retract my statement

edited 24th Apr '18 8:37:04 AM by sgamer82

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#239769: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:35:50 AM

There's a very technical term for things Trump says - bullshit.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#239770: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:36:06 AM

Maybe they accidentally posted in the wrong thread? I do that every now and then.

edited 24th Apr '18 8:37:59 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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#239771: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:36:18 AM

I think they're quoting Trump...

Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
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#239772: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:38:00 AM

Doubt it, isn't Trump buddy-buddy with the fossil energies industry?

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#239773: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:41:04 AM

It's a very recognizable habit, and one that's frustrating to see in the POTUS. I have a close friend who does this.

Not to go all armchair psychiatrist but I should disclose that the friend I'm talking about has something of a cocktail of medically-diagnosed conditions.

One of her behaviors that I've observed is a tendency to invent details or even entire first-hand accounts of things that never happened in order to win a conversation that she's engaged in. The more heated an argument gets, the more facts her brain invents out of nowhere to prove that she's right.

It's very difficult to manage. If you try to confront my friend about the falsehood of her claims, that just provokes her to dig in her heels and argue harder if not shut down the discussion entirely. If she's not emotional about it, she can be gently corrected, but once she gets angry, there's no reasoning with her.

When she's upset, if she says that she's read proven studies that show that 90% of all car crash victims are women and therefore airbags are a misogynist conspiracy, all you can really do is go along with it and wait for her to forget that she thinks that.

From what we know, Trump's people are basically in the same boat.

edited 24th Apr '18 8:41:35 AM by TobiasDrake

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#239774: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:41:27 AM

[up][up]Yeah, Trump doesn't want nuclear things to make energy, he wants them to make his enemies go boom real good.

edited 24th Apr '18 8:41:47 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#239775: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:41:56 AM

Going back to topic, and a preview of today's What The Fuck Just Happened Today:

Scott Pruitt will face two congressional hearings this week. The hearings will focus on the EPA's budget, but they will also give lawmakers an opportunity to grill Pruitt about other concerns and allegations about the agency's use of taxpayer money under Pruitt's leadership.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/scott-pruitt-expected-face-ethics-questions-front-congress/story?id=54677129


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