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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
It absolutely does create a sense of equivocation, not to mention that I would hardly call the GOP middle anything. At this point they're far-right authoritarians who are (barely) held in check by public pressure and institutional forces.
edited 23rd Apr '18 9:47:43 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang538 did an overview of the upcoming special election in the Arizona 8th District. Long story short, the Democrats probably won't win here; the demographics aren't on their side and the district is even more Republican than the 18th Pennsylvania is. However, one poll had the Republican up by 3 points, in a R+25 district. If Democrats overperform their 2016 showing, its a good sign for other districts in the state come November.
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Probably this one,
and IIRC, both the Dems and Republicans are somewhere in the top right due to being relatively authoritarian to different amounts and pretty heavily free market.
Mind, the left hand side is all the schools of communism and the bottom is anarchism. I know there's a version that plots entire political schools onto it but I don't know if it's on that site.
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Ah yes, the one that had Hillary Clinton more to the Right than Donald Trump
? That one? Yeah, I'm calling bullshit.
edited 23rd Apr '18 9:55:58 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedIIRC, the creator of that political compass chart is a British Green, and not particularly mainstream in their thinking in general. If you're fringe enough, all of human civilization fits into the top right.
edited 23rd Apr '18 10:03:11 AM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I was thinking more this one, though it's obviously not perfect.
◊ Not the results I've ever gotten, either.
The political compass isn’t independent in any way, it was created by someone dissatisfied with the direction that Tony Blair took the Labour Party and there’s been a long standing accusation that the compass is designed not to give a fair representation but to make everyone not to the far left of Blair (who himself introduced civil partnerships, the minimum wage, a massive increase in NHS funding and more) look like a fascist.
Plus while it’s better than the line or the horseshoe it’s still not a good political representation, I’ve been wanting to do a cube design for a while now so you can include a globalist-isolationist axis.
edited 23rd Apr '18 10:35:55 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranSo in minor political news Milo got run out of a bar for being a Nazi
and everyone's favourite brogressive, HA Goodman admits he's voting for Trump next time
. Both articles are opinion pieces, but provide links to the things they're referencing; feel free to snicker away.
Three articles I read today from NY Times with different emphasis on today's politics.
First one is how the disappearance of public servant jobs, such as teachers, nurses, and government agencies, has been pushed by the GOP in their bid to funnel ever-more money to the 0.01%. Full article text
Second is a straight Take That! aimed at both Cuomo and de Blasio, who the NY Times think are destroying the influence of New York. Full article text
Lastly, the Times is pretty straight-forwardly saying that no, Trump will never be impeached, regardless of what evidence turns up against him. Full article text
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - SilaswI once read a very interesting analysis by someone who used to id as a TERF (trans exclusionary radical feminist). One thing she pointed out was how making it inconvenient to be one really helped make her eventually discard those ideals.
And that milo article reminds me of that. It being inconvenient to be bigoted is definitely a usually nonviolent form of social monitoring that I think often gets ignored to some extent. We see it on the safety level (get bigots away from me) which is completely valid, but I think we often forget how effective it can be in dissuading people from being actively bigoted.
And it's fairly telling how "easy" it is to drop those ideas and go back to a "normal" life as opposed to a lot of other ideals.
Read my stories!
Saw it in action in one of my classes this semester passed. Student made very bigoted comments in the first discussion. I failed him. He made somewhat less bigoted comments in the second discussion. I gave him a bare pass. In the third discussion, he suddenly discovered racism was bad.
Do I think I changed his mind? No. Do I think I made life better for all the African-American kids he'd been insulting beforehand? Absolutely.
edited 23rd Apr '18 11:10:30 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
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. The sooner these people learn that such beliefs are intolerable, the better.
@M84: That left-right division isn't really catalogued properly, it's more of a state controlled economy-rampant capitalism one. And with her support of free trade agreements like NAFTA or TPP, I guess that's why they put Hillary on that position of the chart.
edited 23rd Apr '18 11:17:37 AM by Grafite
Life is unfair...
Yes which is stupidly reductionist, support of free trade is simply good economics and does not need to follow any specific part of the political quadrant.
Not to mention that the Right can support a state controlled economy, the Italian Fascists supported economic corporatism and some of the OG Reactionaries opposed capitalism.
edited 23rd Apr '18 11:22:57 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangClinton's support of government regulation would automatically put her further along "state controlled economy" than Trump, who while protectionist, does not advocate for any regulation of the businesses themselves. That graph was put together but someone ignorant enough to think that being anti-free trade is the only marker of liberalism.

It's interesting to me that the american political system, both republicans and democrats, exist on middle right of the traditional four-panel political compass. It's very much in contrast with world politics.