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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239552: Apr 21st 2018 at 2:40:59 PM

[up][up]Or the US doesn't stop employing complex strategy just because the most visible head of the executive is a moron, the conspiracy theory of "action x must be a distraction!" is rather annoying.

edited 21st Apr '18 2:41:11 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#239553: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:06:16 PM

[up][up][up] Net neutrality really isn't that big of a national issue to need a distraction and I'm sure moves in Syria aren't decided on that basis.

Life is unfair...
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#239554: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:07:45 PM

[up]Yeah, but attack fleets? Just saying, but that seems a wee bit excessive to me.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#239555: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:10:34 PM

Probably more geopolitical kabuki theater. Less a distraction, more like posturing.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239556: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:14:39 PM

[up]This. Posturing is more than a suitable answer, not to mention that I'm sure there are legitimate power projection benefits from having a fleet in the area.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#239557: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:30:36 PM

So funny, the Democrats have sued the Republicans for Winning. Now he R’s counter and force them to turn over a treasure trove of material, including Servers and Emails!

James Comey’s Memos are Classified, I did not Declassify them. They belong to our Government! Therefore, he broke the law! Additionally, he totally made up many of the things he said I said, and he is already a proven liar and leaker. Where are Memos on Clinton, Lynch & others?

I don't really know what he's referring to here, honestly.

The Washington Post said I refer to Jeff Sessions as “Mr. Magoo” and Rod Rosenstein as “Mr. Peepers.” This is “according to people with whom the president has spoken.” There are no such people and don’t know these characters...just more Fake & Disgusting News to create ill will!

You so totally do.

edited 21st Apr '18 3:33:27 PM by megaeliz

Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#239558: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:34:07 PM

[up][up] Apparently it's going to be bigger than the one they organized in Iraq in 2003...

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#239559: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:45:04 PM

Yeah, pretty sure the attack fleet is more the "Big Stick" diplomacy, with the threat of (immediate) force is meant as deterrent against further chemical weapons attacks.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#239560: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:47:44 PM

I have two questions:

1) When can we start expecting changes to the Internet?

and

2) Would it be possible to get net neutrality back once Pai is gone?

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#239561: Apr 21st 2018 at 3:48:05 PM

“Attack fleet” is a little bit of a misleading term.

While it’s true that forces are arriving in the area, the Truman CSG (Carrier Strike Group) was always bound for the Med. It’s not like a new development or anything. It’s going to be supporting air ops across the region from the Med and the Arabian Sea, like the Bush CSG did before it. We try to keep a CSG in the region as often as we can, for obvious reasons.

They should have sent a poet.
Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#239562: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:04:36 PM

[up][up] Anywhere from a week to a year, according to this: https://www.inverse.com/article/43968-net-neutrality-wont-disappear-yet . And they can, but you can bet the IS Ps will be fighting tooth and nail to keep it gone, and if I'm correct Pai has already made it harder for the FCC to restore it.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239563: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:28:12 PM

It should absolutely be possible to bring it back once the Democratic Party properly takes control, though considering the repeal I think just bringing back as it was isn't nearly good enough. I think it should be partially or entirely nationalized, it's just too much of a natural monopoly to remain purely in private hands.

edited 21st Apr '18 4:28:27 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#239564: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:35:27 PM

Four words: "Local free broad band"

Petition your city council.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239565: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:36:09 PM

[up]Excellent example, that's what I meant by partial nationalization.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#239566: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:45:13 PM

Yeah. Full nationalization will just put it under the control of the next Republican FCC chairman. It's already bad enough when the Republicans are watchdogging net neutrality, do we want them to be both the guards and the inmates?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239567: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:49:15 PM

[up]That logic can be used against literally any government program or action, notice how they've tried to sabotage the ACA and it's doing fine. Thus the idea that fully nationalized ISP's would inevitably lead to successful Republican sabotage simply isn't true.

Personally while I can tolerate partial nationalization I would prefer full, in my view public utilities like ISP's should not be in private hands at-all.

edited 21st Apr '18 4:49:31 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#239568: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:52:48 PM

Worst they could do to the ACA was get rid of the Individual Mandate, iirc

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239569: Apr 21st 2018 at 4:55:55 PM

[up]Exactly my point, the reason that Net Neutrality was so quickly killed off was because it was merely something under the auspice of the FCC when a proper government program for managing the nationalized ISP's should be hard enough to kill as the ACA.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#239570: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:04:07 PM

For that, NN would have to deliver financial value to the average voter equivalent to health insurance. While I like and support NN, it doesn't come close to that.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239571: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:07:19 PM

[up]I disagree, it wouldn't just be NN. We're talking about free high speed internet that is universally available to everyone.

That is exactly the sort of thing that offers both major economic benefit to society and clear personal benefit to voters. If implemented properly (and I see no reason to assume that it cannot be) this is exactly the sort of program that people could come to like, and thus would be extremely hard for the Republicans to sabotage.

edited 21st Apr '18 5:12:00 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#239572: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:10:17 PM

Except that the big four IS Ps have actively lobbied against municipal broadband projects in the past, along with "one touch make ready" laws and the like, because it would break their monopolies.

edited 21st Apr '18 5:10:27 PM by Deadbeatloser22

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239573: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:11:46 PM

[up]Yes? Obviously they would oppose any form of nationalization, I'm not sure your point.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#239574: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:23:33 PM

A Montana Republican candidate for Senate is openly campaigning with everyone's favorite convicted felon/Russian intel asset/Turkish agent: Michael Flynn.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/21/politics/flynn-montana-downing/index.html

From what I can tell by reading his Twitter feed, the response is almost entirely negative.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239575: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:29:23 PM

[up]Ah campaigning with a traitor, how disgusting.

"Party of patriotism" my ass.

edited 21st Apr '18 5:29:39 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

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