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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#239101: Apr 17th 2018 at 6:26:19 AM

Honestly, though, Trump has no ideology. I'm not sure if a narcissist is capable of one.

He has an ideology. It's white supremacism.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239102: Apr 17th 2018 at 6:28:55 AM

[up]That's certainly his driving impulse but honestly he's so vacuous that I think it's not wrong to say that he lacks a proper ideology.

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#239103: Apr 17th 2018 at 6:55:47 AM

At most, what Cohen and Trump have accomplished is forcing the prosecution to reveal details about their investigation
This sounds like a pretty big deal, am I overestimating the importance of it?
I'm sorry but most of the big political forces calling themselves evangelicals are bigots spreading anti-intellectual, discriminatory beliefs that actively harm people, not to mention covering up the horrible crimes that go on behind the curtains in their community.
Yes, but how dare Google show that to anyone who searches for it!
at my left-wing Christian group, the right trying to proselytize everyone really bothers all of us a lot. It also perpetuates the stereotype that all Christians are fanatical.
We know they're notnote , but when the loudest voice in every room is the biggest asshole, it does kind of make everyone else look bad for not kicking them out (so to speak). Rarely do the left-wing Christians even try to shout over the giant assholes, and to be fair, maybe I'm asking too much.
He also fails at OPSEC forever, by tweeting about them days before it happened, and presumably let them have more than enough time to evacuate the whole place.
As someone on here said, maybe the point was to make sure we didn't Accidentally On Purpose kill a bunch of important Russians and prompt a retaliatory strike; but I'm sure there was a better way we could have given that warning that wouldn't have led to Russian troops barring investigators from reaching the chemical sites.
Some of those who support the strike on the basis of humanitarianism and enforcing international norms tend to lean left, and it will take more than a single night of bombing to put them into "approving of Trump" range.
There's not enough bombs in the world to make anyone who approves of humanitarianism to support Trump.

I posted stuff about the Starbucks thing over in the Race thread when it happened. Is the police chief still claiming the officers did nothing wrong by escorting two people out for being black in a yuppie store?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
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#239104: Apr 17th 2018 at 6:59:20 AM

Last I heard, the police chief maintained that the officers responded properly to a call of trespassing. I don't have any current details. The public outrage seems to be most strongly directed at the (former) manager of that Starbucks, not the cops.

edited 17th Apr '18 7:00:01 AM by Fighteer

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FyodorDose Since: Mar, 2018
#239105: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:03:17 AM

Have you guys noticed this? Recently, I've been seeing an uptick in those stories where people make up scenarios. You know the ones- my 8 year old pointed at the tv when trump was on and said "I hate that man." or something about standing up to a vaguely described white man, and "everyone on the train clapped." There's tons of them going around right now. I don't know if it's just me or what.

edited 17th Apr '18 7:04:14 AM by FyodorDose

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239106: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:04:19 AM

[up]I think it's probably confirmation bias, those things have always existed just now for whatever reason they're more obvious to you.

edited 17th Apr '18 7:04:39 AM by Fourthspartan56

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#239107: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:08:19 AM

An uptick in what stories? And what exactly do you mean by "people make up scenarios"?

edited 17th Apr '18 7:08:38 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#239108: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:16:30 AM

Yeah, Trump racism come less as ideology and more as impulse he follow to time to time, I mean he pretty much goes against is more ardent fanbase when shit hit the fan.

I will said he is sympathic to white supremacy because they are nice to him and trump cant bring himself to do anything.

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#239109: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:20:36 AM

It's a bit more than that. Trump is a bigot, no doubt about that. His renting practices and his hounding of the Central Park Five are proof of that. He's just too self-centered and lazy to actually put on a white hood.

Disgusted, but not surprised
FyodorDose Since: Mar, 2018
#239110: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:25:47 AM

[up][up][up] You know, where people create a scenario that represents them standing up to something or represents a political view of theirs, and say their kid said it at dinner or everyone applauded them in a public place

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#239111: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:26:11 AM

I think Fyodor just learned that r/thathappened exists.

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#239112: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:33:12 AM

I'm just wondering how exactly this relates to US politics.

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#239113: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:33:14 AM

Obviously fake internet stories have been around for years, nor are they exclusive to the Left.

edited 17th Apr '18 7:34:30 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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FyodorDose Since: Mar, 2018
#239114: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:34:39 AM

[up][up][up] I'm old, give me a break. I just meant i'm seeing them a lot more lately.

edited 17th Apr '18 7:53:23 AM by FyodorDose

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#239115: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:36:26 AM

[up][up] Heck, it predates the Internet. Urban legends have been around for a while.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239116: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:42:31 AM

Yeah, Trump racism come less as ideology and more as impulse he follow to time to time, I mean he pretty much goes against is more ardent fanbase when shit hit the fan.

I will said he is sympathic to white supremacy because they are nice to him and trump cant bring himself to do anything.

I wouldn't go this far, white supremacy is not an impulse Trump follows haphazardly or out of convenience. It strongly motivates his actions and what passes for his beliefs.

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#239117: Apr 17th 2018 at 7:57:13 AM

Opps, wrong thread.

edited 17th Apr '18 7:57:55 AM by Kakuzan

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#239118: Apr 17th 2018 at 8:03:51 AM

[up][up] Yeah, like I said before, one can find examples of Trump's bigotry from even before he ever ran for office. It's not just convenience for him — he genuinely does think less of people who aren't white.

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#239119: Apr 17th 2018 at 8:32:41 AM

As someone on here said, maybe the point was to make sure we didn't Accidentally On Purpose kill a bunch of important Russians and prompt a retaliatory strike; but I'm sure there was a better way we could have given that warning that wouldn't have led to Russian troops barring investigators from reaching the chemical sites.

That was actually done, the Russians were informed that the strikes would be happening via traditional channels shortly before they happened.

Thing is that was done the normal way, either via the state department or the Do D, it was not done via twitter days in advance.

I just meant i'm seeing them a lot more lately.

I suspect that that’s due to a change in your information gathering habits (or the habits of your sources) more than any actual uptick in people making shit up. Obviously shit is more focused on Trump now as he’s president, but the liars have always lied.

edited 17th Apr '18 8:34:22 AM by Silasw

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#239120: Apr 17th 2018 at 8:49:34 AM

Part of the fun is that when the people in charge of major media outlets display a casual or dismissive attitude towards what constitutes facts (*cough* Fox News), it inspires others to do the same, either out of genuine ignorance or intentional malice. Then we get a President who does the same exact thing and it becomes the heyday for the fake news purveyor. Add Russian troll farms and it's a wonder any of us know what day it is, never mind what's really going on in the halls of power.

All of this benefits people with disruptive, counterfactual agendas.

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FyodorDose Since: Mar, 2018
#239121: Apr 17th 2018 at 9:09:57 AM

[up] Quite possibly my favorite political meme is a news story of a town re-electing a dog as mayor, captioned with "I'm tired of these greedy, lying politici-

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#239122: Apr 17th 2018 at 9:12:30 AM

Supreme Court has ruled that Immigrants can not be deported for any random 'Crime of Violence', like Burglary. It was a 5-4 Split, with Justice Neil Gorsuch siding with the Liberal Justices.

So on the one hand, Immigrants can be held indefinitely for any crime they commit, but on the other hand, they can't be deported for any crime they commit. We really do need to reform Immigration entirely in this country, but at least they won't be kicked out of the country for Jaywalking now.

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#239123: Apr 17th 2018 at 9:36:17 AM

Not so surprised. "Violent" in the context of criminal law has often been defined as "as lawmakers randomly decided" if they even bothered at defining it.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#239124: Apr 17th 2018 at 9:42:17 AM

I think the surprising thing is Trump's chosen Justice being the deciding vote in an immigration case's beneficial looking outcome.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#239125: Apr 17th 2018 at 9:44:14 AM

[up]Agreed, it's shockingly professional. I could've sworn that he was a raving ideologue.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

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