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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Oh boy, I don't like loud sounds, I guess that I am a conservative now
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I think you’re right, the most likely explenation is that he’s a selfish shit, that he wanted to save his own hide from congress and sent the memo thinking Hillary would still win and that she’d understand that he did it so as to maintain his positon and the reputation of the FBI (which would have gone down the drain if he’d not sent the memo, the info has leaked (which it would have) and he’d then had to come out and fire half the New York office for abusing their positions as FBI agents to try and rig a presidential election).
I still want the FBI agents who are threatening to leak the info (that they’d found some emails connected to Hillary on Weiner’s PC) investigated, as while yeah Comey almost certainly isn’t some deep cover Russian agent I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out that some of the New York FBI office were compromised.
God I hope the next democrat learns from this, appointing Comey was a mistake on Obama’s part, we need to learn that Republicans can never be trusted, push come to shove they will pretty much always put personal profit and party interest ahead of national security, just like Comey did.
edited 15th Apr '18 7:34:19 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran![]()
I fail to see how, care to explain.
Oh please, we here knew at the time that the memo made the chance of Trump winning much greater, Comey knew more than any of us what that would mean for the US and the world, but he did it anyway Comey made a gamble, a gamble with the fate of the US, the US and the world lost that gamble, he’s got a book deal out of it.
He did do what he thought as best, for himself and the FBI, not what was best for the US and the world.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranYeah, I'm getting tired of Comey's puerile moral posturing when he did more than almost anyone else to put Trump in office, and for all his simpering about what a hard position he was in, he concealed the fact there was an investigation into Treason for Russian collusion.
And what made him fucking editorialize in July about how 'careless' Clinton was? What kind of BS was that one?
edited 15th Apr '18 8:57:18 AM by Lightysnake
As someone who never stopped being mad at Comey there's a Vox article that is extremely apropos to the current discussion.
Why James Comey isn’t the hero you think he is
I think people generally need to get over the idea that just because someone opposes Trump that means they must be a good person or worthy of commendation, it's just too simplistic and reductionist.
edited 15th Apr '18 9:06:13 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI don’t think they can be trusted, a few of them (Muller and Rosenstein being the only two I can name) will do the right thing in particular situations (same as Mc Cain on healthcare and other senators in certain situations), but that doesn’t mean they can be trusted, I don’t trust Muller or Rosenstein, in the end they’re Republicans, and members of the Republican Party have a history of putting other loyalties above loyalty to the country.
It’s not about ever being associated with the Republican Party, but right now the only reasons to be a Republicans are because you are ignorant, because you value either yrouself or your organisation over the country, or because you don’t agree with it and are trying to reform it from the inside.
I don’t believe that there are very many of the third kind out there, Comey proved that.
edited 15th Apr '18 9:22:30 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
While I don't think that your position is fearmongering (it's not really trying to incite panic) I think you're being myopic, yes Republican officials should not be trusted but I see no reason to distrust Mueller just for his party affiliation and every reason to trust him due to his extensive record as a civil servant.
We should absolutely see the Republican party as an enemy but I think you're taking it a little too far.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangIs ironic how this very thread tried to sell Mueller as the Token Good Teammate of the Republicans.
edited 15th Apr '18 9:33:00 AM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my country
Autocorrector sucks in Cellphone.Thanks you
edited 15th Apr '18 9:33:10 AM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my countryThat makes more sense.
And no that's not ironic, the thread is not a hive mind and even one of its members is skeptical of Mueller does not mean that the rest of us have to be.
Personally I have complete trust in Mueller. As someone who actually supports law and order as something more than a vapid dogwhistle he's exactly the kind of person that I admire.
edited 15th Apr '18 9:37:09 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThat’s fair, his record is good, allow me to reconsider then, I trust Mueller a lot less than I would otherwise, because he’s a Republican, his record (particularly on this case) speaks well of him, but goddamm does his status as a Republican make me trust him an awful lot less than I would if he was an independent.
All evidence suggests that he’s a good person in spite of being a Republican, but dammit if that doesn’t make me weary, it’s a mark against him for me.
edited 15th Apr '18 9:38:37 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
I think that's fair, but keep in mind that he's not a modern Republican. He's from a time when the Republican party was not so transparently awful and when decent people could still associate with them.
Yeah I can understand that, I also personal understand the position of being one of the more sane voices in a party that those around you say has gone off the rails, that you want to reform and make sane.
Just makes me bloody nervous even if I can understand not just why he would have joined the Republican Party but also why he’d stay.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI do have to have admit, I've been a bit surprised by how few people in this thread haven't been constantly expressing doubt or going "Mueller's just waiting for a way to somehow get Trump off the hook" or something.
To be frank, it actually unsettles me a bit how much certain people here remind me of the alt-right, with their rhetoric of destroying their enemies. Silasw isn't one of them, but a few tropers come to mind.
edited 15th Apr '18 9:46:16 AM by LSBK
Liberals aren’t incapable of the same “us vs. them” rhetoric that fuels the right.
Personally, I think the Muller-worship is a case of counting eggs before they’re hatched. We don’t know which way the investigation will go, and it’s quite possible it won’t go the way people are hoping it’ll go. Muller is an old-school Republican but by no means infallible. We shouldn’t get ahead of ourselves here.
They should have sent a poet.

So on the Syrian front, apparently the Russian troll farms
were denying there would be a chemical attack before the attack happened. Does that mean we can count Russia as an active part of chemical warfare against civilians? Full article text
On the home front, just how pissed at Sessions is Trump? Well, he just supported a law to protect the marijuana industry and limit federal prosecution in pot-legal states. Full article text
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw