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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'm a bit late to the discussions, but just to surmise quickly- the Syria strikes are proooobably Right for the Wrong Reasons yeah?
A more rational person would've struck Syria to get Russia to bugger off, and Trump did it as a distraction/dick wave/"I did something"?
...and I guess a more rational person wouldn't of essentially been like "pssst pretend we did something to hurt you guys, ice cream later?" either, huh.
It would have been more effective and cheaper to take in refugees, I believe. I think there's some value in bombing, but not the way Trump and the GOP uses it. If it ends here we're lucky- I don't believe Trump would start WWIII by bombing Syria, but he's an idiot who could start a third war in the Middle East and kill a lot more people than are dying now, not to mention blow another hole in our budget.
More ethical, too; but "Trump" and "hospitality" isn't really a combination I think we'd ever get and his staunch opposal to helping refugees has been around since before he became president.
So... okay, guess I was just a tad optimistic. Thanks for the clarification.
🏳️⚧️she/her | Vio Rhyse AlberiaThe thing that always occurs to me re: Alex Jones is The Last Podcast on the Left series on Bill Cooper
, one of the biggest conspiracy theorists there's been. Even that guy thought Jones was full of shit.
edited 14th Apr '18 6:59:43 AM by sgamer82
I think this
sums it up pretty well.
They were also illegal, and an attempt to distract from the coverup of the 2016 Election Fraud.
edited 14th Apr '18 7:20:43 AM by megaeliz
An editorial in the NY Times is basically begging people to support a new centrist party, declaring the GOP in jeopardy with Paul Ryan's retirement. Full article text
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - SilaswI might be talking out of my arse here, but I think it's standard operating procedure to warn Russia. We weren't attacking Russia. We were attacking Syria. Warning Russia is a diplomatic move that says, "Hey, this attack is happening despite your saber rattling, but we are not trying to pick a fight with you or cause harm to your direct assets. This is your formal alert to extract any people or equipment you have in the area. Anything that happens to them because of a failure to do so is now officially on you, not us."
It's how we avoid the headline, "Russia had 20 important generals in the area that just got bombed! War has been declared!"
edited 14th Apr '18 7:50:20 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.So we're saving three refugees per month. Yeah, that'll really help the humanitarian situation.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw- No missiles were intercepted by Russia’s vaunted S-400 systems.
- JASSM Air-launched missiles were utilized from B1 Bombers.
- UK Tornado and French Rafale strike fighters utilized Storm Shadow missiles.
- Aircraft fired from outside Syrian airspace.
- In addition to air-fired cruise missiles, the Tomahawk and French Md CN missiles were utilized.
- Zero civilian casualties.
Not a bad outcome, honestly.
edited 14th Apr '18 9:44:01 AM by megaeliz
Tobias has it right. Warning Russia that an attack was going to happen near them but not directed at them is standard operating procedure when in a complicated situation like this. No one wants to start a major conflict by accident, which means making it very clear that Russian forces are not under attack.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.Wyldchyld: International law only exists as much as there’s a will to enforce it. Basically, if the US says it’s legal it’s legal until someone challenges that by force. Even if an argument can be made that the US violated international law it’s essentially a moot point.
We generally abide by the norms of international politics but there are obviously exceptions.
They should have sent a poet.Moving on from that distraction, apparently Mueller has evidence that Cohen was in Prague in 2016, contradicting his previous statements, and confirming yet another part of the Dossier.
Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.
It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. Undercutting Trump’s repeated pronouncements that “there is no evidence of collusion,” it also could ratchet up the stakes if the president tries, as he has intimated he might for months, to order Mueller’s firing.
Cohen has vehemently denied for months that he ever has been in Prague or colluded with Russia during the campaign. Neither he nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment for this story.
It’s unclear whether Mueller’s investigators also have evidence that Cohen actually met with a prominent Russian – purportedly Konstantin Kosachev, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin — in the Czech capital. Kosachev, who chairs the Foreign Affairs Committee of a body of the Russian legislature, the Federation Council, also has denied visiting Prague during 2016. Earlier this month, Kosachev was among 24 high-profile Russians hit with stiff U.S. sanctions in retaliation for Russia’s meddling.
But investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany, apparently during August or early September of 2016 as the ex-spy reported, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is confidential. He wouldn’t have needed a passport for such a trip, because both countries are in the so-called Schengen Area in which 26 nations operate with open borders. The disclosure still left a puzzle: The sources did not say whether Cohen took a commercial flight or private jet to Europe, and gave no explanation as to why no record of such a trip has surfaced.
edited 14th Apr '18 10:41:58 AM by megaeliz

Given how highly Trump values Jones's show, I can't wait to see what happens when he hears this.
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