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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
A slight change in topic but might be noteworthy:
"Trade war backfire: Steel tariff shrapnel hits U.S. farmers" - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-steel-agriculture/trade-war-backfire-steel-tariff-shrapnel-hits-u-s-farmers-idUSKBN1HK0GV
Thinking about it Rosenstein may be the only administration official to come out of this looking good, he seems to have genuinely tried to do his job as well as possibly and is getting fired because of it, even Comey was in the end someone willing to break the law to get Trump elected despite knowing of the Russia issue, Rosenstein seems to have genuinely been willing to suffer to try and protect the country, not sell it out for personal gain like Comey.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranAnything forum I followed posted this Twitter post
regarding a possible firing. There posters who responded were all up in arms about it but, on paper, it doesn't strike me as an inherently bad idea.
Given the "THEIR SIDE BAD!!!!!" knee jerk is something I'm on record as utterly LOATHING, I'm all for taking a moment to actually think before reacting. So I'm sincerely not seeing the issue outside of maybe two days being a bit much.
While it's true it was worded terribly, calling it a "cooling off period" implies the Democrats would be doing nothing or just chilling. Reaching out to form a bipartisan opposition is something that needs to be done (and would be done) but is absolutely not a cooling off period.
Also the Republican side totally is bad, don't false equivocate disliking Republicans and disliking Democrats. The former is reasonable if tempered by pragmatism while the latter is not.
edited 13th Apr '18 10:15:22 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangOh I'm not (trying to) false equivocate. The GOP is, easily, the less competent and trustworthy party at the moment.
I still hate the "THEIR SIDE BAD!!!!!" knee jerk, though. I hate even more that the Republican make it ever more easier to justify. So I'm all for it if at least some folks out there want to avoid the sheet thoughtlessness that goes into that mindset
edited 13th Apr '18 10:20:56 AM by sgamer82
I get that, but if their side actually is bad why is it wrong to have a negative knee-jerk reaction against them? Doesn't mean we should oppose the Democrats reaching out to subvert Republicans but disliking them collectively merely seems sensible to me.
edited 13th Apr '18 10:21:15 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangHmm, this reminds me of a similar turbulent time in Nixon's administration, more specifically this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre
. Seems Trump learned from his mistakes by not directly trying to fire Mueller.
Anyway, Trump is not trying to undermine the FBI because he wants to be an autocrat, he's doing it because he's upset they searched his lawyers' possessions and are looking into some private aspects of his life (Stormy Daniels).
Yet it seems like the fears of a "president for life" keep popping up, even if the military doesn't support him, there's a 200 year old democratic tradition and the fact it isn't actually possible in accordance to the law.
Life is unfair...The president for life thing won’t happen, but eventually someone will have to stand up to Trump so as to stop it happening. Either he gets impeached, loses in 2020 or leaves office in 2024, either way he will have to leave the White House at some point and I don’t see him doing it willingly, which means the Secret Service will have to physically remove him from the preemies.
What potential? Republicans elected officials have shown themselves to be totally unwilling to stand up to Trump, it’s foolish to think there’s any potential for working with them.
edited 13th Apr '18 10:25:30 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI mean, I think knee-jerk reactions should be avoided whenever possible even when the reaction itself is understandable. Clearly, it's perfectly possible to find most everything the Republicans do contemptible without necessarily misinterpreting or getting upset over the wrong thing, which is what knee-jerk implies.
If he somehow manages to win reelection and serve out both terms fully, I don't even see Trump being unsatisfied with that. Clearly, his primary interest for this entire thing was to say he did it.
edited 13th Apr '18 10:26:36 AM by LSBK
The potential to be able to reach out to Republicans is a perfectly valid reason to not knee jerk to "THEIR SIDE BAD!!!!!"
And we can absolutely dislike the Republicans collectively while making use of them individually. I despise them but I would never throw shade at the Democrats making use of beneficial bipartisanship.
edited 13th Apr '18 10:25:57 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangAnd we can absolutely dislike the Republicans collectively while making use of them individually. I despise them but I would never throw shade at the Democrats making use of beneficial bipartisanship.
Also: "Trump pardons former George W. Bush administration official Lewis 'Scooter' Libby - White House" - Get updates at Reuters.com
edited 13th Apr '18 10:29:05 AM by sgamer82
It appears Trump is extending his swamp draining promise even to members of previous administrations, how noble of him.
Life is unfair...edited 13th Apr '18 10:38:37 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangDon't have time for a full What The Fuck Just Happened Today news dump. For now here's the link to Day 449: Slime ball.
https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2018/04/13/day-449/
One story I will mention since it's not a big topic currently
FCC Chairman Ajit Pai rejected a request from a dozen senators to investigate Sinclair Broadcast Group for "distorting news" coverage, saying an investigation would conflict with the First Amendment and freedom of the press. Sinclair forced anchors to read a scripted promo warning of "fake news" and media bias.
Even if Trump passes some precedent and then immediately drops dead, that precedent is super dangerous. We can track huge issues all stemming by a president making something legal.
Read my stories!

Plus, did everyone forget about all the active service members who began supporting taking a knee on Twitter?
I don't think anyone is claiming that all of the military supports Trump, but it is true that the military more strongly supports him than the general public
[1]. Which might sound scary but it's less scary when you keep in mind how much the general public dislikes him.
[1]=For those who aren't interested in reading the link 44% like him and 40% dislike him. Interestingly Officers like him 30% and Enlisted like him 48%, I imagine the biggest factor is education because as a rule officers are more likely to be educated than enlisted
edited 13th Apr '18 9:05:09 AM by Fourthspartan56
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang