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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#237951: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:24:56 PM

Yes, the impression I get is most of them consider this a tedious waste of their time.

Imca (Veteran)
#237952: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:28:48 PM

The rank and file consider it a waste of there time.

The officers don't want to load every one up onto a bus, and all the vehicles up onto a train, only to imediatly turn around and bring them back because its a pain in the ass for "Something that will be forgoten about within a week any way"

and the generals are just "You want what in the parade? You know we don't have that right? Who is footing the bill here"

The extra funny part to me is that the general concencus among them is that "The only people who will enjoy this is those that are there to protest" is a common sentiment, and not in a negitive way about protestors either.

edited 8th Apr '18 3:29:52 PM by Imca

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#237953: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:29:25 PM

The memo says the parade will begin at the White House and proceed to the U.S. Capitol, with a "heavy air component at the end." It notes that Trump will be surrounded by military heroes in the reviewing area at the Capitol.

This is the key bit, which shows that it's all about Trump upstaging a day that's supposed to be dedicated to veterans to make it all about him. The only reason to surround himself with veterans is to make sure that all the attention and adoration is centred on him instead of the veterans.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#237955: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:33:18 PM

Or the fact that none of the military wants to do it.
86% of the military consider it a giant waste of time and resources, according to a poll by the Military Times back when it was announced.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#237956: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:37:37 PM

The extra funny part to me is that the general concencus among them is that "The only people who will enjoy this is those that are there to protest" is a common sentiment, and not in a negitive way about protestors either.
I think the generals realize that the majority of the protestors who show up will be complaining about Trump, not the military. I hope.
it's all about Trump upstaging a day that's supposed to be dedicated to veterans to make it all about him.
Like, duh, we've all known that from the very first moment the tweet was sharted out of Trump's sausage fingers.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237957: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:40:03 PM

[up] He's a narcissist, what do you expect? His two big goals in life are to avoid shame and feel like he's important and loved.

He wants us to equate pride in out country with pride in Donald J Trump.

edited 8th Apr '18 3:42:28 PM by megaeliz

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#237958: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:40:38 PM

...I don't know, people stopping by to protest the American military wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing ever. '>>

Though I'm mostly saying that because when I see that people in uniform are by far the most-trusted public servants in the US, I start to get reeeeeal worried.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#237959: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:41:14 PM

[up][up][up] I know that. I'm just observing how incapable he is of hiding it.

edited 8th Apr '18 3:41:33 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Imca (Veteran)
#237960: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:42:01 PM

Well thats because they have stricter screening then the cops.

....

I think firefighters are trusted atleast.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#237961: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:43:24 PM

...I don't know, people stopping by to protest the American military wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing ever. '>>

Though I'm mostly saying that because when I see that people in uniform are by far the most-trusted public servants in the US, I start to get reeeeeal worried.

The day makes it bad timing for a parade to inflate Trump's ego (well, worse timing, there's no good time for that)... and also a great day to make protesters protesting the military look as bad as humanly possible.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237962: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:44:24 PM

[up] No protests won't work. What if it's just nobody shows up?

edited 8th Apr '18 3:47:12 PM by megaeliz

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#237963: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:46:11 PM

Honestly, I think the best way for the public to protest the march would be to not show up and hold alternative memorial services for Veterans' Day. That way you kill Trump's beloved crowd size again, and its hard for them to pull the "Why do you hate the military?" card.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237964: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:47:31 PM

Honestly, the Right has has controlled the narrative on Patriotism for far too long. I think maybe it's time to take it back.

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#237965: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:50:59 PM

How about a Counter-Parade; you get a bunch of Veterans who will parade down a different path in Washington, and all of them carry protest signs against Trump and his idiotic parade? That way, you can actually protest the stupid parade, but you don't go against the Military because Military Veterans are the ones Protesting it.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#237966: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:53:13 PM

Well thats because they have stricter screening then the cops. .... I think firefighters are trusted atleast.

I don't know about firefighters, but the police are the third most-trusted institution in America according to Gallup's annual survey.

Military's at #1, with 44% indicating a great deal of trust in the military and 28% indicating 'quite a lot' of trust in the military. Number two is small businesses.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237967: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:04:18 PM

[up][up] that's an idea

It's just patriotism and having pride in your country, is so much more complex than the right makes it out to be. They say, that anything less than blind, uncritical Jingoism means you hate your country, but isn't opposing or even protesting something because you feel like your country isn't living up to the ideals it was founded on also an expression of patriotism?

edited 8th Apr '18 4:04:39 PM by megaeliz

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#237968: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:20:23 PM

So with the fire, did they ever determine the cause of the one that happened last year? I'd largely forgotten about it, and trying to find info about it now is all about the most recent fire.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#237969: Apr 8th 2018 at 6:11:48 PM

[up][up]I recomend Orwell notes abut nationalism, it separare patrotism(the love for one country which while annoying is just passive) to "Nationalism" which is often a dick mesuring contest against everything else, it pretty much apply well to Trump and is people.

"He wants us to equate pride in out country with pride in Donald J Trump. "

Yeah, THAT worry me, it happen the same in venezuela and is way to tie the system to one person.

Think Anakin "IM THE SENATE!" and you will get it.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237971: Apr 8th 2018 at 6:32:41 PM

"He wants us to equate pride in out country with pride in Donald J Trump. "

Yeah, THAT worry me, it happen the same in venezuela and is way to tie the system to one person.

Think Anakin "IM THE SENATE!" and you will get it.

[up][up] It's par for the course with a Narcissist, but it's still rather disturbing.

edited 8th Apr '18 7:01:19 PM by megaeliz

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#237972: Apr 8th 2018 at 6:37:16 PM

So we're back to "L'Etat, c'est moi" again?

Then again he has roughly the same sense of interior design (or lack thereof) as a pre-revolutionary French monarch.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#237973: Apr 8th 2018 at 6:47:17 PM

[mod note: There was no need for this.]

Apparently the GOP's new strategy is "Vote for us, or they'll impeach Trump": https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/us/politics/trump-impeachment-midterms.html

Yeah, can't see how that can backfire, especially since everyone but his base and Russia hates him...

edited 8th Apr '18 7:43:17 PM by nombretomado

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237974: Apr 8th 2018 at 7:01:57 PM

[up] Then by all means, they should keep saying that.

So, I saw this on twitter and I verified it. Raphael Pitti, a French Doctor and humanitarian worker in Syria right now, posted yesterday on his Facebook page that he thinks the Chlorine gas attack was a cover for a second attack of something like Sarin. (used google translate because Facebook auto translate is crap.)

I do not think it is chlorine, impossible that it is chlorine in the photos. I do not want to put them online. it sounds like an attack with neuro toxics like sarin

We must be sure that the photos and videos I receive are from tonight [1]

The balance sheet weighs down with families found dead in the cellars, in the second video. The man seems to present convulsions more typical of satin

Everything suggests that during the second attack, chlorine was used to mask the use of sarin at the same time.

6 people died from chlorine and for the moment more than 100 are reported to sarin with more than 1000 victims [2]

It's not really American Politics per say, but mentioning it since Trump did.

edited 8th Apr '18 7:20:19 PM by megaeliz

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#237975: Apr 8th 2018 at 7:30:47 PM

[up][up]I see their logic, midterms are primarily about base enthusiasm so they're hoping that they can use that to motivate their base to go out and vote. Of course considering that this could just motivate hostile independents and Democrats even more it's not the best idea, though I doubt they have any others.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

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