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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237876: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:41:28 PM

[up] Perfect Metaphor for Trump himself.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237877: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:44:11 PM

He's a cheapskate when it comes to stuff that actually matters. All he cares about is the image. He'll blow money on gilding and marketing, but won't spend a penny on safety, quality control, paying contractors, etc. if he can avoid it.

It was bad enough when he was just a guy running hotels and resorts. But now he's running the most powerful nation on Earth.

edited 7th Apr '18 8:45:16 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Imca (Veteran)
#237878: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:48:18 PM

Yet, as we can see he doesnt actualy care about image this time, or rlse he wouldnt be fucking up international relations this bad.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237879: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:50:07 PM

[up] It's more that he thinks this is good for image. He thinks being a bully is "strength".

edited 7th Apr '18 8:50:30 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237880: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:51:12 PM

I think a lot of this can be chalked up to his Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

He's desperate to keep up the act, and even more importantly, avoid shame, and that is quite literally all he cares about. He has no impulse control or capability to learn from his mistakes. All he can do is desperately try to keep up appearances to try to collect adoration. He will throw everything and everybody to the curb to do so.

edited 7th Apr '18 8:56:56 PM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237881: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:53:41 PM

This is part of why I'm not surprised by most if not all of the bullshit Trump does. When one remembers that Trump is an insecure, petty, unstable narcissist, nothing shitty he does will come as a surprise.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#237882: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:54:36 PM

Trump and his ilk don't really understand what "soft power" means, and consider anything besides making unreasonable demands, and having those demands immediately cowed to, as weakness.

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#237883: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:54:54 PM

Now I'm convinced that Trump Tower isn't up to fire safety codes.

They're not. The upper floors don't have sprinklers. Apparently they were built before that became a requirement, so it's technically not a code violation.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#237884: Apr 7th 2018 at 9:05:42 PM

Trump once bragged about his buildings having handicapped access ramps, until a reporter called B.S. — "They're required by law! He can't take credit for that!"

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237885: Apr 7th 2018 at 9:08:20 PM

You know that if they weren't required by law he wouldn't have built them and bragged about saving money.

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237886: Apr 7th 2018 at 9:09:49 PM

[up] The other goal of a Narcissist, other than avoid shame, is to collect adoration, or at least self aggrandize, to make up for their utter lack of self esteem.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237887: Apr 7th 2018 at 9:18:56 PM

Hence why he blows money on wasteful and ill-planned ventures like Trump steaks and building multiple casinos in the same area. It's all about trying to spread his name and image. Make him look like a successful business mogul and visionary.

It's been brought up that if he had invested his money more wisely in less grandiose and public ways, he'd have way more money. But someone like Trump lacks both the business sense and the humility needed to do that. It's not just about making money. It's about making money and looking "good" doing it.

edited 7th Apr '18 9:19:35 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#237888: Apr 7th 2018 at 10:11:05 PM

Nugent is such a creep

Do not obey in advance.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237890: Apr 7th 2018 at 10:48:50 PM

This is depressing:

Someone came into my apartment today, saw my uncle’s framed memorial American flag and a small sign that reads “Freedom.” She turned to me, all color drained from her face, and she said, “You’re not one of those lunatic Trump supporters, are you?”

What has this man done?

Honestly not sure what's more depressing, the fact that someone would react like that to seeing a display of a Veteran's memorial flag, or that I can completely understand why.

edited 8th Apr '18 11:09:56 PM by megaeliz

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#237891: Apr 7th 2018 at 10:59:41 PM

[up]Trump either has turned or is turning the country into a parody of itself.

i'm tired, my friend
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237892: Apr 7th 2018 at 11:07:06 PM

Trump is the Ugly American, the embodiment of every negative American stereotype. His campaign, his victory, and this shitshow of an administration seems to have emboldened Ugly Americans everywhere.

edited 7th Apr '18 11:07:21 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#237893: Apr 7th 2018 at 11:16:00 PM

I fly two flags from my front porch: the American flag and the seal of the United States Army. I've considered taking those flags down sometimes after seeing what a mockery people are making of this country.

edited 7th Apr '18 11:16:26 PM by danime91

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237894: Apr 7th 2018 at 11:18:00 PM

It's never a pretty sight when patriotism is overtaken and twisted by nationalism.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Sivartis Captionless One from Lubberland, or the Isle of Lazye Since: Apr, 2009
Captionless One
#237895: Apr 8th 2018 at 1:35:42 AM

Trump is the Ugly American, the embodiment of every negative American stereotype.
Well, surely not every - *thinks*
  • Crass
  • Bigoted
  • Obsessed with wealth
  • Dismissive of other cultures
  • Convinced of his own superiority, yet ignorant of almost everything he talks about
  • Attempts to ape the trappings of refinement, ends up with a gaudy mess

... dear God.

♭What.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#237896: Apr 8th 2018 at 2:03:59 AM

[up] Don't forget loud, indiscrete and lazy.

Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#237897: Apr 8th 2018 at 2:11:46 AM

[up] You forgot fat.

[up][up] He's not a mobster (though he does have Mafia ties) or a cowboy shooting guns everywhere.

edited 8th Apr '18 12:00:43 PM by Wariolander

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#237898: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:39:08 AM

[up]

Well, well. What a way to generalize.

Are you not aware that a good damn half of the country is against Trump? Even when he began to run for POTUS there was a massive outcry, protests. Did you not read this thread, even see that all the American posters are upset and angry at their country being driven into the ground within a matter of months? Every day there are new petitions, fresh opposition from the left-wing and sane conservatives, Americans going about their daily business wincing at Trump's freshest blunder. What, did they all blindly elect him? Did the Democrat party suddenly cease to exist? His approval rating drops by the day, Democrats swing more and more states blue. The people aren't mindless zombies or marching thoughtlessly to the beat of a drum. They're aware that he's wrong and they openly oppose him.

I'm not American. But I've always liked them. All the ones I've interacted with? Kindest people I've ever met, lovely change from the people back home. They may not know much about other cultures, but they're still willing to listen no matter what. That stereotype? Only an irritating amount of Americans are like that, but they tend to stay out of public view and confine themselves to the internet. It's just that right now, they're feeling confident enough to come out in public and spout garbage.

As for the Anti-American nutjobs, it's not like their country's hands are clean, either. But no, to them, the US is soooooo unsophisticated and unlike them. My beef is that it's not wrong to oppose US policies, but to extend the anger and hatred to Americans themselves? Pathetic, really. They brag about Americans being uber-patriotic and nationalism, while beating their meats about how much more awesome their countries are.

But if they're all just blind idiots to you then so be it. There's no point in talking to you anymore. If you didn't read the thread, if you didn't follow the news, then leave this forum for a while. Safest way to not get thumped again.

Update: Well, you edited your post. Don't do this crap again, understand?

edited 8th Apr '18 3:43:25 PM by TheWildWestPyro

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#237899: Apr 8th 2018 at 3:51:14 AM

> Democrats swing more and more states blue.

Which will hopefully lead to the Blue Wave,washing away the stain on American politics that is Trump and the Republican party

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#237900: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:09:39 AM

[up]

For the good of us all, I hope that it does, and does so that the circumstances that lead to such a lunatic being elected never happen again.


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