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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#237851: Apr 7th 2018 at 4:19:05 PM

I see there's been another fire at Trump Tower today. One person seriously injured. Am I right in thinking that's the second fire this year at the tower?

1 Civilian, 4 Firefighters Hurt In 4-Alarm Fire At Trump Tower

edited 7th Apr '18 4:20:30 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#237852: Apr 7th 2018 at 4:48:28 PM

GOP Rep. Ralph Norman brought a loaded gun to meeting with constituents, saying he won't be a Gabby Giffords: https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/congressman-ralph-norman-gun-constituents-gabby-giffords?utm_term=.tga8d3wOL#.psqzpEJn2

Yes, I know it's buzzfeed, but the stupidest part is that he left his gun alone on the table. If somebody there really wanted to kill him, they could have just grabbed it and shot him while he was completely defenseless.

TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#237853: Apr 7th 2018 at 4:55:23 PM

Poster child for responsible gun ownership there.

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#237855: Apr 7th 2018 at 5:11:54 PM

[up]Politician and major gun control advocate.

edited 7th Apr '18 5:12:07 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#237856: Apr 7th 2018 at 5:14:16 PM

Who famously survived an assasination attempt.

I think he was trying to say he’d fight back if someone came for him. Really though, what a ridiculous macho fantasy. By the time he got his gun out of his pants and found the gunman in a crowded room they’d have already shot him.

They should have sent a poet.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237857: Apr 7th 2018 at 5:25:06 PM

Daily Trump tweet dump (I feel like there's a Clever name in there somewhere.

  1. The United States hasn’t had a Trade Surplus with China in 40 years. They must end unfair trade, take down barriers and charge only Reciprocal Tariffs. The U.S. is losing $500 Billion a year, and has been losing Billions of Dollars for decades. Cannot continue!
  2. We are sealing up our Southern Border. The people of our great country want Safety and Security. The Dems have been a disaster on this very important issue!
  3. Lawmakers of the House Judiciary Committee are angrily accusing the Department of Justice of missing the Thursday Deadline for turning over UNREDACTED Documents relating to FISA abuse, FBI, Comey, Lynch, Mc Cabe, Clinton Emails and much more. Slow walking - what is going on? BAD!
  4. What does the Department of Justice and FBI have to hide? Why aren’t they giving the strongly requested documents (unredacted) to the HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE? Stalling, but for what reason? Not looking good!
  5. Fire at Trump Tower is out. Very confined (well built building). Firemen (and women) did a great job. THANK YOU!
  6. While Security spending was somewhat more than his predecessor, Scott Pruitt has received death threats because of his bold actions at EPA. Record clean Air & Water while saving USA Billions of Dollars. Rent was about market rate, travel expenses OK. Scott is doing a great job!

So today we've got 1 China, 1 Wall, 2 attacking the FBI, and 1 Scott Pruitt, for anyone keeping track.

edited 7th Apr '18 5:31:11 PM by megaeliz

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#237858: Apr 7th 2018 at 5:26:25 PM

So how many counts of assault with a deadly weapon is that?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#237859: Apr 7th 2018 at 5:34:52 PM

The flaw with the "Good Guy with a Gun" idea is that someone usually ends up shot/killed anyway, since the Bad Guy usually can draw and get a shot off first before anyone can react. The point of more gun control is to prevent the scenario from happening at all so no one gets shot. Yeah, you can make the argument that bad guys will still find a way to get guns and kill people, but I'm betting that those laws are a lot more reliable than just hoping that there's "Good Guy" who's going to save you. And hoping the good guy doesn't miss, or gets shot first.

edited 7th Apr '18 5:36:53 PM by StarOutlaw

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#237860: Apr 7th 2018 at 5:41:43 PM

[up] Let’s not forget that a “Bad Guy with a gun” is usually convinced they’re actually a “Good Guy with a gun”.

They should have sent a poet.
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#237861: Apr 7th 2018 at 5:50:55 PM

Has anyone ever tried doing a serious simulation of a shooting and testing that idea? Like, get a big group of people, with one good guy and one bad guy, and see how many people the bad guy can "kill" with a fake gun before the good guy can stop them. Could be done in a videogame too. I don't know how you'd add gun laws into that simulation though. Maybe expand the group size and increase/decrease the number of people carrying a gun based on expected ownership percentage, but I don't think that would be realistic.

edited 7th Apr '18 5:58:47 PM by StarOutlaw

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#237862: Apr 7th 2018 at 6:00:31 PM

It’s been tested for real, the Vegas shooting has victims that were armed but unable to return fire safely, their guns were useless.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#237863: Apr 7th 2018 at 6:03:46 PM

Figuring out where gunfire is coming from can be difficult, and shooting blindly is extremely dangerous. It’s a good thing they didn’t.

They should have sent a poet.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#237864: Apr 7th 2018 at 6:04:35 PM

I heard that another reason why the people in the crowd who had guns and didn't shoot back is because they didn't want to be confused for the actual shooter.

Do not obey in advance.
StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#237865: Apr 7th 2018 at 6:20:17 PM

It can work when there's much fewer people and it's clear who has a gun, like armed robbery, but not when it comes to a mass shooting due to the confusion. Even still, simply having a gun yourself won't be effective if the Bad Guy already has you at gunpoint, so you better hope someone else there has a gun they can pull out while said bad guy isn't looking. That kind of scenario doesn't seem very likely, and again is unreliable compared to gun laws that would at the very least guarantee an obstacle to the bad guy getting a gun in the first place.

All that being said, I think that enacting better gun control laws is only one step. I think the overall gun culture in the US needs to be dealt with in some way, which laws alone can't fix.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#237866: Apr 7th 2018 at 7:15:02 PM

Ted Nugent wants to murder his political opponents again.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/07/politics/nugent-democrats-media-advocates-rabid-coyotes/index.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#237867: Apr 7th 2018 at 7:33:16 PM

Man, being a far-right reactionary must be an awful state of being; constantly living in fear that Democrats, liberals and communists are out to destroy your country, burn your churches, take away your guns, bring white people to extinction, and turn your kids into gay sex maniacs. No wonder so many of them are angry, miserable, and/or fucking crazy.

i'm tired, my friend
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#237868: Apr 7th 2018 at 7:52:20 PM

[up][up]Ted Nugent once shat his pants and wore them for three days before walking into an Army recruitment office so that he could excused from the draft.

I think his opponents will be fine.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#237869: Apr 7th 2018 at 7:53:48 PM

I thought he said he made that up or something?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237870: Apr 7th 2018 at 7:55:23 PM

[up][up][up] Eh, I'm certainly not going to waste any pity on them. Besides, they probably get off on the anger.

edited 7th Apr '18 7:55:40 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#237871: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:04:33 PM

Apparently there was a fire at Trump Tower

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#237872: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:04:59 PM

[up][up]I'm not saying I pity them, just... how do you live like that?

edited 7th Apr '18 8:05:05 PM by PhysicalStamina

i'm tired, my friend
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237873: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:10:45 PM

[up] I was only half-joking about the "getting off on the anger" bit. I do think a lot of these people, on some level, enjoy having someone to hate. Or maybe it's more accurate to say they're hooked on it, like people desperate for a fix.

They think of themselves as the good guys fighting against the forces of "evil". They're living out a heroic fantasy in their twisted little skulls.

edited 7th Apr '18 8:11:57 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#237874: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:35:01 PM

Amusingly, #AmericanExceptionalism is trending with Russian Bots.

It's stupid, but it struck me as funny.

The top Hashtags are about Syria (probably denying that Assad has Chemical Weapons and/or denying that todays Chlorine Gas Attack on Civilians didn't happen at all),#MAGA, and #QAnnon as usual, as well as stuff about car being driven into a crowd in Münster Germany. They are also talking about the Trump tower fire.

edited 7th Apr '18 8:41:05 PM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#237875: Apr 7th 2018 at 8:39:23 PM

Now I'm convinced that Trump Tower isn't up to fire safety codes. Par for the course with Trump properties. Overpriced, gilded, shallow, substandard garbage.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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