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TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#236751: Mar 26th 2018 at 7:47:00 PM

[up]

Yes, that's the current thought.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#236752: Mar 26th 2018 at 7:51:17 PM

Yep, the general idea of consent nowadays is "Make sure that your partner is as into this as you are".

Disgusted, but not surprised
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#236753: Mar 26th 2018 at 7:55:10 PM

The way Daniels described it, her consent was less like "Yes" and more like "Yes......?"

It's the kind of distinction over which any other man today would be raked over the coals, even in retrospect, because the hesitation matters.

edited 26th Mar '18 7:58:05 PM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#236754: Mar 26th 2018 at 7:57:20 PM

[up]x2 - [up]x4 Of course, just speaking personally here, I would go a step further and just treat whatever she (or possibly the right 'he') says as "no, get the hell away from me" regardless.

edited 26th Mar '18 7:58:10 PM by Reflextion

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#236755: Mar 26th 2018 at 8:02:19 PM

Trump's legal strategy seems to be to keep giving Mueller new things to look at so that his presidency ends and the investigation still isn't over.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#236756: Mar 26th 2018 at 8:05:12 PM

I'd like to see him impeached, but him being the first president since HW Bush to lose a reelection would be pretty sweet too.

If nothing else than it being less likely to cause riots and gives me much more of a chance to throw back "He lost, get over it".

Plus leave Bernie the chance to act out that steel chair meme by clocking him at 11:59AM and being pardoned by the new president at exactly Noon.

edited 26th Mar '18 8:05:43 PM by Joesolo

I'm baaaaaaack
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236757: Mar 26th 2018 at 8:05:52 PM

[up][up] The problem being of course, that Bobby Three-Sticks is already several steps ahead of him. (The fact that he actually had a list of topics he wanted to ask Trump about says as much, because with someone as big as him, prosecutors do not like to ask questions they don't already know the answer too.).

edited 26th Mar '18 8:10:24 PM by megaeliz

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#236758: Mar 27th 2018 at 3:53:55 AM

So apparently Cohen is demanding that Daniels retract a false allegation that he was responsible for the goons threatening her.

An allegation she never actually made.

...Does that count as self-incrimination?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
FyodorDose Since: Mar, 2018
#236759: Mar 27th 2018 at 4:29:50 AM

Hi, fellas. I'm going to buy a new revolver today and take my son shooting later, so I can answer questions about the gun-buying process in America for non-americans if you guys like.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#236760: Mar 27th 2018 at 4:38:26 AM

[up] Better suited to the Gun thread.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#236761: Mar 27th 2018 at 4:42:16 AM

[up][up]If you want to blog about getting yourself a highly dangerous death machine, go nuts. Don't know how old your purported son is, but I, for one, would have felt deeply uncomfortable having the world know how long it might have taken me to become OK at plinking when I was a teen to young adult.

But, I suspect this and the Gun threads know all about how buying a gun works in various parts of the US, thanks. It's been discussed, enough.

edited 27th Mar '18 4:42:37 AM by Euodiachloris

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#236762: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:10:16 AM

The “gun-buying process in America” also isn’t just one thing. Someone from Vermont would be very confused if they tried to buy a gun in New York, for example.

They should have sent a poet.
FyodorDose Since: Mar, 2018
#236763: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:12:29 AM

[up] [up] Alright, fair enough. Although your definition of a simple revolver as "a highly dangerous death machine" is the kind of talk that makes me think there's misinformation going around in the first place. It's fine.

[up] There are a lot of constants, though, such as the federally required background check and not purchasing handguns until you're 21.

edited 27th Mar '18 5:13:35 AM by FyodorDose

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#236764: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:16:09 AM

Or maybe it's the fact that right from the start the gun was designed to kill.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#236765: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:17:54 AM

[up][up]I'm British. I'm allowed to lump handguns in with faulty cars, ill-designed factory floors, badly constructed tower blocks, Samsung phones and terrible death van burgers.

You know... things that can kill people.

edited 27th Mar '18 5:19:29 AM by Euodiachloris

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#236766: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:18:05 AM

[up][up][up] Many states only strictly require federal background checks for NFA items, and the handgun age limit doesnt cover private sales, and can be waived completely in some places. When it comes to US gun laws there are surprisingly few constants.

Also, what do you think that revolver is meant to do? You can be pro-gun and still think guns are incredibly dangerous, because they are. I’d hope you’d teach your son that as well so he handles his weapon with care.

edited 27th Mar '18 5:20:56 AM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#236767: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:36:17 AM

Yeah, "a highly dangerous death machine" is an apt description for a gun. The entire purpose of a gun is to kill.

[up][up]It's slightly different in that when those things kill people, it's a bug rather than a feature.

edited 27th Mar '18 5:38:13 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#236768: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:44:06 AM

[up]True. Perhaps I should have gone for "freely available arsenic that used to be in pharmacies and was marketed as 'rat poison'".

But, I would argue that Grenfell was pretty much a deadly death trap by incremental design. A lot of deliberate decisions went into cutting those corners. Much as with the Flint water supply.

They knew people were likely to die.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236769: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:44:18 AM

It might not be a bad idea to see if there any shooting/Gun safety classes in your area, like at the local shooting range or something, especially if you've never done it before, or haven't in a while.

Nothing wrong with having it as a hobby, as long as you aren't stupid about it. (I like Archery)

edited 27th Mar '18 5:51:04 AM by megaeliz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#236770: Mar 27th 2018 at 5:45:37 AM

[up][up]In the cases of Flint and Grenfell, I'd say it's less "deliberately trying to kill people" and more "not giving a shit if people die because you're a cheapskate".

edited 27th Mar '18 5:47:30 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#236771: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:00:18 AM

It's a case of considering the lives and well-being of a particular group of citizens as less important than the political advantage you gain by appearing to save money.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#236772: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:05:27 AM

For some, political careers are worth letting people drink lead or leaving them to burn.

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236773: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:15:52 AM

So one retired Supreme Court Justice wrote an Op-Ed in the NY Times about repealing the Second Amendment, and now you have a whole bunch of conservatives screaming at imaginary Liberals, that want to "Take away their guns!"

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#236774: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:18:23 AM

[up] Heck, I remember reading an article written by a conservative in the wake of the Las Vegas shooting calling for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#236775: Mar 27th 2018 at 6:22:28 AM

Liberals haven't "done" anything. Conservatives make us look craftier than we actually are. Our own roles in ending gun violence have been characterized by inaction. The next generation is who is driving this, buttressing rhetoric with praxis.

edited 27th Mar '18 6:22:53 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

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