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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#236351: Mar 23rd 2018 at 2:27:45 PM

If it's any comfort, Bolton has no authority to actually order a strike, he can only advise. It's up to the Do D and the Joint Chiefs to manage any military action, and they presumably still have some pull with Trump (or at least can fall back on Mathis' old Marine hand to hand training to keep Trump's little fingers off the button).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236352: Mar 23rd 2018 at 2:32:34 PM

[up] Relevant

[down] You know what we mean.

edited 23rd Mar '18 3:17:55 PM by megaeliz

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#236353: Mar 23rd 2018 at 3:08:10 PM

I mean, they don’t literally have buttons. In the case of the US the metaphorical button exists to ensure presidential authorization can reach the military in times of crisis. It’s more like the military has the button, and the president has the key to the cover.

edited 23rd Mar '18 3:08:34 PM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236354: Mar 23rd 2018 at 3:53:02 PM

The Right (and Russian Bots) are all up in arms about Passing the Omnibus bill.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#236355: Mar 23rd 2018 at 3:54:59 PM

[up]Heard about that, it's rather excellent. Their anger is exactly the kind of anger that translates into electoral suffering for their side.

edited 23rd Mar '18 3:55:06 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236356: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:01:20 PM

[up]That's what happens when you build a movement on hate, exclusivity, and ideological purity.

edited 23rd Mar '18 4:01:34 PM by megaeliz

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#236357: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:03:17 PM

What a mixed reaction kind of day.

The good: The latest budget was basically a screw you to Trump. Some have even gone so far as to say his presidency is effectively over; I wouldn't quite go that far but there's no denying this is a loss for his agenda.

The bad: John Bolton; stocks falling due to the trade war; the terrorist attack in France; the power players of Cambridge Analytica have started a new company, likely to continue the same mischief as before.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#236358: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:03:51 PM

[up][up]Absolutely, to be united by hated is a fragile alliance at best.

[up]A good summation.

edited 23rd Mar '18 4:04:22 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#236359: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:05:25 PM

[up][up] Two of those bad things aren't US politics, at least.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#236360: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:06:30 PM

Attorney says Roy Moore supporters offered him $10,000 to drop client who accused the Senate candidate of sexual impropriety

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/attorney-says-roy-moore-supporters-offered-him-10000-to-drop-client-who-accused-the-senate-candidate-of-sexual-impropriety/2018/03/23/6d875f2c-02e3-11e8-93f5-53a3a47824e8_story.html

Alternate link at the Hill: Attorney: Roy Moore supporters offered $10K, Bannon meeting to drop accuser as client

BIRMINGHAM — Days after a woman accused U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual impropriety, two Moore supporters approached her attorney with an unusual request.

They asked lawyer Eddie Sexton to drop the woman as a client and say publicly that he did not believe her. The damaging statement would be given to Breitbart News, then run by former White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon.

In exchange, Sexton said in recent interviews, the men offered to pay him $10,000 and promised to introduce him to Bannon and others in the nation’s capital. Parts of Sexton’s account are supported by recorded phone conversations, text messages and people in whom he confided at the time.

The effort to undermine Leigh Corfman’s allegations — beginning on Nov. 13, a month before the election — shows how far some of Moore’s most fervent supporters were willing to go to salvage an Alabama campaign that many hoped would propel a nationwide populist movement and solidify Bannon’s image as a political kingmaker.

edited 23rd Mar '18 4:07:35 PM by sgamer82

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#236361: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:06:39 PM

Going by a quick Twitter scan, a lot of voters on the right are pissed at the bump stock move as well.

Good, stay pissed off. Stay at home on election day. Spoil your ballot. Vote Libertarian or Constitution party (are they still a thing?). Anything that depresses the GOP vote is a good thing.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#236362: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:10:48 PM

What does this bill fund that they hate? (Well, besides the government, in general.)

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#236363: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:12:05 PM

If I recall correctly, it tells the CDC to go research gun violence explicitly.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#236364: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:14:36 PM

[up][up]It doesn't do a bunch of stuff Trump wants it to do, like the Wall or increasing the number of ICE agents (IIRC he wanted 1000 and they just increased it by 100).

[up]This too.

edited 23rd Mar '18 4:14:48 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236365: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:20:31 PM

[up]x4 And Russian Troll/Bot accounts are fueling the fire. For once this may not be in their best interest.

edited 23rd Mar '18 4:22:50 PM by megaeliz

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#236366: Mar 23rd 2018 at 4:21:30 PM

even 10% of our nuclear arsenal could cause a nuclear winter effect in the region and a small but noticeable cooling worldwide.
wild mass guess This is Donnie's master plan to prevent global warming! wild mass guess
For bonus points, sometimes a nationality or ethnicity that had been the target of discrimination a few generations before is later held up as an ideal immigrant group, that is the backbone of the country, unlike whatever new group was coming over now.
I feel like this needs to be put into, like, a timeline meme, and shared around Facebook.
If we don't go to war with North Korea, it'll be because actual sane people in the administration prevent Trump from pushing the button.
So, you're saying we have to hope that Kelly hides the button before he gets tweet-fired?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#236367: Mar 23rd 2018 at 5:07:52 PM

I'm not sure if this was in the spending bill Trump signed today, but the House spending bill which was passed on Wednesday had funds for Trump's wall, but barred it from going through the Santa Anna National Wildlife Refuge in Southwest Texas.

So, yeah, someone was trying to put hole's into Trump's border wall even if he got any money for it.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#236368: Mar 23rd 2018 at 5:08:08 PM

Seems even Trump's base are turning on him over Bolton's appointment and the Omnibus bill, according to several topics on Game FA Qs linking to his supporters' reactions on various social media sites.

edited 23rd Mar '18 5:09:00 PM by Wariolander

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#236370: Mar 23rd 2018 at 6:05:36 PM

That is interesting.

I love how it talked about religious Democrats, it really annoys me how for some reason people never talk about the religious left (hint: it's because they're minorities).

edited 23rd Mar '18 6:07:48 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236371: Mar 23rd 2018 at 6:11:31 PM

This is actually hilarious! I've found that their are two responses to this:

anger

The Liar promised Mexico 🇲🇽 would pay!!! He is such a con artist. [1]

My feelings exactly!! I'm still in shock he became part of the establishment. I can no longer defend or vote for him. [2]

I REALLY SUPPORTED YOU SIR. I'm so terrible sad .. You fool. The new Congress will IMPEACH YOU before you get another real shot. I don't know why on Earth you would throw your Presidency away like this! They really got you this time man. This is very bad. I wish you luck sir. 😢 [3]

@realDonaldTrump You may have just lost re-election after signing that omnibus bill. You yourself said you didn’t know what was in it. You’ve lost my confidence and support. [4]

And desperately trying to rationalize:

I am very much FOR FUNDING OUR MILITARY. But, with that said, I am super disappointed in the Omnibus Porkulus Bill — Yes, I am.

However, I think @realDonaldTrump has something up his sleeve. He is not going to tell us because he can't.

removing filibuster vote is big. [5]

They have also convinced themselves that an Omnibus bill is not a budget.

2) This Omnibus Bill (which was designed by Rino's to undermine Trumps agenda) is actually the same type of blank check funding used by Obama to do whatever he wanted. It's not an actual binding "Budget Bill." Trump will use this as leverage against his/our enemies. Take heart! [6]

You guessed right. Trump fooled them all. This was an omnibus bill not a budget. He has to adhere to a budget not an omnibus bill. He can pretty much spend what he wants. [7]

1/2 All is not lost: It’s not an official ‘Federal Budget’, It’s an Omnibus bill, not a Budget! Trump outsmarted them again & Congress basically screwed themselves by not passing a Budget. [8]

edited 23rd Mar '18 6:22:06 PM by megaeliz

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#236372: Mar 23rd 2018 at 6:12:55 PM

[up]That's just delightful, not just for the obvious schadenfreude related reasons but also because if his core base starts abandoning him (or even just 1/10th of it) then this could cause horrific damage for him come November and 2020.

edited 23rd Mar '18 6:13:07 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#236373: Mar 23rd 2018 at 6:13:42 PM

My favorite though has to be this one:

Here’s a thought...What if all the good ole American taxpayers decided to hold off paying taxes until our dollars are fairly represented? #Omnibus Bill [1]

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#236374: Mar 23rd 2018 at 6:15:33 PM

[up]Oh god I hope they try [lol]

They deserve to face the scariest Federal agency.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#236375: Mar 23rd 2018 at 6:26:40 PM

The IRS doesn’t have the enforcement budget it used to sadly, its budget keeps getting cut despite it turning a 4 to 1 profit.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

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