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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
It certainly does put Republicans in a bit of a bind if the shooter was a radical leftist. If they agitate to take guns away from the Left, they're abandoning any sort of intellectual principle on gun rights. If they paint it as an act of terrorism, then they have to give up the party line that right-wing attacks are "regrettable crimes". If they ignore it, they're abrogating their hardline stance on law and order.
When an Angry White Man is shooting at Republicans, it really throws off the GOP's narrative.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:13:49 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Except that they don't have to give it up, because they can just claim that only leftists can inspire white people to be terrorists. That's pretty much what the far-right does.
"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."
Oh Jesus Christ!
I'm mainly hoping that they keep working to alienate their own voters, making the job of retaking our government easier.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
I would strongly refute that notion.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:26:59 AM by firewriter
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Probably because the Republicans are seen as the "responsible party". Them saying harsh or awful things is seen like a parent scolding a naughty child, Democrats doing the same is seen as children throwing tantrums because they don't know what's best for them. Pretty ironic actually.
Not really surprising. When it happens to them then it needs to be addressed; people are funny like that. It will be surprising if it goes anywhere, though.
Edit: I stand correct on the above. Still doubt it'll go anywhere.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:37:04 AM by LSBK
The thing is I believe treating Democrats as if they are held to a Double Standard comes off as too much biased opinion rather than fact.
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Terry Mc Auliffe is a Democrat, and I would think that ironically this is the same type of exploitation people earlier condemned the Republicans for.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:32:58 AM by firewriter
Well, we don't lose 93 million a day to gun violence. That was misstated. But it is inarguably true from decades of evidence that Republicans only care about keeping guns out of the hands of minorities.
And a Democrat calling for gun control in the wake of a shooting is not in any way inconsistent, because that's what Democrats do in general. It would be hypocritical if the call were raised only when a right-wing shooter caused problems, but it isn't.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:33:33 AM by Fighteer
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And you have not proved that assertion. Or even backed it up. Democrats call for gun control after every shooting, regardless of the politics of the person who does it. That's what you've demonstrated.
Congratulations, you've proved Democrats arent't hypocritical, unlike their Republican enemies.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:37:26 AM by AmbarSonofDeshar
"Probably because the Republicans are seen as the "responsible party". Them saying harsh or awful things is seen like a parent scolding a naughty child, Democrats doing the same is seen as children throwing tantrums because they don't know what's best for them. Pretty ironic actually."
That and because like any double estándar, the republicans judge themselves a out how they feel about it, so Trump love america because..,,he said he love América, that it, not surprising the conservative side hate Obama for is lack of nationalistic rethroic, that show you a lot.
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What is your sample population for "a lot"?
Because doing so does not go back in time and convince the shooter to do something else. Because doing so does not guarantee that medical treatment for those injured is successful. Because doing so does not negate the fact that there is now precedent.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:54:49 AM by Krieger22
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot

Not if he's dead.
The thing I hate most when these shooters are killed is that, since many are suicidal to begin with, their getting killed feels like The Bad Guy Wins.
edited 14th Jun '17 9:09:59 AM by sgamer82