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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The growing tension between the party’s ascendant militant wing and Democrats in conservative-leaning terrain, where the party must compete to win power in Congress, was on vivid, split-screen display over the weekend: in Chicago, where Senator Bernie Sanders led a revival-style meeting of his progressive devotees, and in Atlanta, where Democrats are spending colossal sums of money in hopes of seizing a traditionally Republican congressional district.
This morning, Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz copied us on a letter to the editor he had composed. It included this:
Contrary to the authors’ claim of a deep divide between such candidates and the Party’s base, Ossoff’s campaign has been fueled by millions of dollars in small donations from rank-and-file Democrats across the country eager to send a signal to President Trump and Republican leaders in Washington that their days in power are numbered.
Here in Georgia, the level of grassroots activism on behalf of Ossoff has been unprecedented with a small army of volunteers conducting rallies and ringing doorbells in the days leading up to the June 20th runoff. Whatever the final outcome of that runoff, it is clear that Democrats in Georgia and across the nation have been extraordinarily united in support of the Ossoff campaign.
Likewise, Columbus Mayor Teresa Tomlinson has a well-timed op-ed piece in The Daily Beast
about the kinds of Democrats that can win elections in the South, a model she describes as the “pragmatic progressive.” A taste:
As voters in the 6th Congressional District of Georgia begin voting in the June 20 Jon Ossoff/Karen Handel run-off, politicos and uber-engaged voters around the country are wondering if this election will signal a new dawn in our long partisan darkness. It could be that a new pragmatic leadership style is emerging: one that is easier on the eyes and ears of independents, suburban moderates, blue-collar workers, and millennials. The Pragmatic Progressive is a strong Democrat in economic and social/civic policy, but understands these policies benefit many beyond their base and are not afraid to go into the lion’s den, if need be, to let them know so.
A Pragmatic Progressive – and Ossoff sure seems like one – can explain to you why Democratic policies are not special-interest politics but are sound economic strategies for citizens at every economic level.
Among Scalise, other staff were hit.
Excerise?
It's also a turd of a joke because it reduces five decades of geopolitical wrangling in Europe to 'lol Germany taking over,' which is the archest of horseshit. It wasn't funny when Jon Stewart made the joke, and it has aged more poorly than American democracy.
I'd argue there's a bit of a disconnect there between the wishes of the German people (who most certainly don't want the job) and German politicians (some of which genuinely do). Like, I've absolutely no doubt in my mind that a dickhead like Schäulbe would love to have more German influence in European politics so he can enforce some 'financial discipline' on the rest of Southern Europe while he's on a roll.
edited 14th Jun '17 5:46:11 AM by math792d
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.European politics is off-topic for this thread, but I'll note that there can be a disconnect between the political intentions of a nation and the actual economic effects of its behavior. The effect of what Germany's been doing for the past few decades has been to artificially suppress its own inflation to sustain its trade surplus, in effect exporting deflation to the peripheral Eurozone nations. This has caused catastrophic damage to the Eurozone project and has helped to spread the fires of nationalism across the EU as people see Germany prospering while they suffer.
These are facts. Why it's happening it is not germane to the facts, although it is germane to finding a solution.
edited 14th Jun '17 5:53:05 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Before Swanpride shoots back on the Economic topic for round 346. of that argument: Take it to the Economics Topic if you want to go to the mat about this again.
Because I am getting mighty tired of the same people fighting over this topic like dogs over a bone without any progress whatsoever just because neither side is willing to let the challenge go for once.
On topic: So the possibility spectrum of the shooter goes from "Radicalised Muslim" to "Trump Supporter being Angry over Congress obstructing him
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But hey, if it means the AHCA doesn't get passed again...
Disgusted, but not surprised