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#192726: Jun 10th 2017 at 7:48:18 PM

As noted, children are not responsible for the actions of their parents. The Trump kids should not be held responsible for what their father does.

They should, however, be held responsible for what they do, which is why Eric and Ivanka are deserving of all the criticism they receive.

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#192727: Jun 10th 2017 at 7:55:04 PM

In this case Ivanka and Eric are probably hip deep in whatever Trump is or has been doing so... yeah. But yeah, for all that the right did what they did in regards to the Obama and Clinton children, I think the general consensus is that you're not supposed to trash talk a president's minor children. It's a cheap ass punch that makes you look bad.

Also Tiffany is such a non-entity I think people kind of forget she exists. Does she even really spend that much time with her father's side of the family?

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#192728: Jun 10th 2017 at 8:06:06 PM

@The Wanderer's post

Still may prove megaeliz's point though...

America’s military believes the war is winnable, if only Presidents Bush and Obama’s limitations on time and troops were lifted.
Perhaps, I'm misreading this, because it sounds like "of course we can win if we had infinite resources and no oversight..."
note 

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#192729: Jun 10th 2017 at 8:06:28 PM

I mean, Ivanka's fair game because she's a prominent figure in the Trump administration in her own right- nobody would've batted an eye at the right going after the Obama children if they'd been nominated for cabinet position, for example.

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#192730: Jun 10th 2017 at 8:34:09 PM

Obama would've been impeached had he tried that (and his daughters were old enough to even be nominated in the first place)

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#192731: Jun 10th 2017 at 10:58:32 PM

[up] I mean at this point I'm kind of surprised Trump ' didn't try to nominate Barron for anything.

And who names their kid Barron anyway?

Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#192732: Jun 11th 2017 at 12:32:45 AM

Someone who fancies himself a feudal lord.

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#192733: Jun 11th 2017 at 1:09:23 AM

Rich people, I'd imagine. Or at least someone who enjoys flaunting their wealth.

Which Trump absolutely does, so...

edited 11th Jun '17 1:09:56 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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#192734: Jun 11th 2017 at 5:59:26 AM

A pretentious jerk.

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#192735: Jun 11th 2017 at 6:36:24 AM

Just want to fact-check something about the Paris Accords that was posted in another thread.

See, I myself do not like the Paris Accord, the gist of it is America pays for 80% of the cost for nations to stop polluting while the EU provides 20%. But here is the rub, China actually is allowed to continue to pollute until 2032, not only are they allowed to polute, they can actually increase their pollution without having to keep it under control untill aroudn 2032 when they will be forced to start... this is because China is considered a "developing nation".

Is this true, or a misunderstanding of the facts?

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#192736: Jun 11th 2017 at 6:54:58 AM

One, the Paris Accord is 100% nonbinding, so the idea that it forces anyone to do anything is wrong from the outset.

Two, each country sets its own goals, so if America is reducing its pollution levels and China is merely reducing the growth of theirs, that's because that's what America and China each decided that that's what they were going to do, not because anyone is cracking down hard on America but giving China a pass.

Three, there are provisions for wealthier countries to give money to a fund that helps poorer countries develop cleaner industry instead of using cheaper, older, dirtier technology. I don't actually know the ratio of who is donating how much, but again, it's entirely nonbinding, so the US could say "we're sticking to our pollution target but skimping on donations" and there's nothing anyone could do about it.

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#192737: Jun 11th 2017 at 6:59:22 AM

[up][up]Really, the only thing the Paris Accords really does is say "Hey, we agree that climate change is a problem, so we're going to try to cooperate with the rest of the world to deal with it. We're all in this together!"

Backing out of it sent a really bad message.

edited 11th Jun '17 6:59:53 AM by M84

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#192738: Jun 11th 2017 at 7:05:16 AM

Two articles on what all these [nja]s posted, both emphasizing that nations set their own targets, constrained mainly by cooperating to reach the "Planet Earth does not heat more than 2 degrees Celsius" goal. note 

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#192739: Jun 11th 2017 at 7:07:06 AM

Double post for something completely different:
Georgia GOP candidate poses with controversial militia at anti-Sharia rally

A Republican candidate for Georgia governor is facing a wave of criticism for posing with a militia group after a Saturday rally protesting Islamic law.

State Sen. Michael Williams posed with members of the Georgia Security Force III% militia after the Piedmont Park event, where he urged voters to “unite” against Shariah law.

The photograph triggered a torrent of tweets, many of them questioning whether members of the group were flashing a white supremacist sign. Others said the three-finger symbol was the sign of the militia, which holds that only 3 percent of colonists fought in the Revolutionary War.

Williams, a Cumming entrepreneur, formally entered the governor’s race earlier this month on a pro-Trump platform that includes a promise to expand gun rights. His spokesman Seth Weathers said the militia’s members asked for a picture after his remarks, and he agreed because they looked like “pro-gun supporters.”

“We don’t know about the supposed symbolism, only that a bunch of liberal hate groups were online tweeting about it,” said Weathers. “This is the stupidest thing in the world – that we are debating whether grown men were supposedly holding their fingers the wrong way during a photo.”

The Southern Poverty Law Center and other groups tweeted pictures of Williams with the members of the militia, whose leader Chris Hill sought to block construction of a mosque in Newton County last year. They quickly attracted hundreds of retweets and comments.

The rally was part of a string of nationwide protests against Shariah law organized by ACT for America, which calls Islamic tenets incompatible with Western democracy. The Southern Poverty Law Center defines the organization as an anti-Muslim hate group.

The militia, which trains in the north Georgia woods, has received a sweep of attention for involvement in protests against the mosque and in support of the Confederate battle flag. The New York Times in 2016 quoted Mark Pitcavage of the Anti-Defamation League saying the militia is notable for its acute Islamophobia.

The picture itself is on the article's page. And so many of the comments fall into Completely Missing The Point that I wonder if Williams will even have to spin his role there.

edited 11th Jun '17 7:12:10 AM by CenturyEye

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#192740: Jun 11th 2017 at 7:34:30 AM

These groups claim they're not anti-Muslim, just anti-Sharia, but I don't believe them. At any rate, all these protests send a message of intimidation to law-abiding Muslims, whether they intend it or not.

EDIT: [up] To be fair, there are also plenty of comments in that article which recognize the danger of these militia groups, the reverse (Christian-favoring law in what's supposed to be separation of church and state) and the Trump administration.

edited 11th Jun '17 7:40:54 AM by speedyboris

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#192741: Jun 11th 2017 at 8:46:41 AM

Perhaps, I'm misreading this, because it sounds like "of course we can win if we had infinite resources and no oversight..."

No, that's a fair summary of what the military is saying, which I feel is wrong headed and a horrible blind spot that the military has, but the point that still, after 5 months, not only can Trump not keep a message consistent with his top ambassadors and spokes people, but he doesn't have a plan for an ongoing war. I mean, if you elected a third grader I'm pretty sure they'd work on some type of plan in the 2 and a half month gap between election and taking office, not to mention the five additional months since. How does somebody just not give any thought to an ongoing war? How does a party not get their president to do so?

Trump the conman and carnival barker showing his true colors again. And people are dying because of it at this very moment.

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#192743: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:04:07 AM

Wealthy GOP sponsor behind all of those bot follower trump gained recently.

http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/billionaire-gop-patron-behind-trump-social-media-bot-army-article-1.3236933

Also good news for you U.K. Folks, trump's state visit us postponed until further notice.

http://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trumps-uk-state-visit-postponed/amp/

edited 11th Jun '17 9:06:52 AM by megaeliz

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#192744: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:05:24 AM

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Bully for the UK. smile

edited 11th Jun '17 9:05:52 AM by M84

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#192745: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:15:22 AM

No, that's a fair summary of what the military is saying,

Not really, I don't see oversight mentioned there at all. What they're saying is that with proper money and troop numbers they could win, in the end that's true, one of the best ways to run counterinsurgency is to flood the areas with troops so as to provide stabilisation.

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#192746: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:15:48 AM

Theresa May's office is denying that Trump wanted to have the UK trip postponed

Prime Minister Theresa May's office said on Sunday there had been no change to plans for U.S. President Donald Trump's to come to Britain on a state visit, after the Guardian newspaper reported the trip had been postponed.

The paper, citing an unnamed adviser at May's Downing Street office who was in the room at the time, reported Trump had told May by telephone in recent weeks that he did not want to come if there were likely to be large-scale protests.

"We aren’t going to comment on speculation about the contents of private phone conversations," a spokeswoman for May's office said. "The queen extended an invitation to President Trump to visit the UK and there is no change to those plans."

The White House had no immediate comment on the report.

No date has been set for the visit, which was agreed during May's visit to Washington in January, but British media had reported it was planned for October.

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#192747: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:21:34 AM

[up] Okay, so maybe no bully for the UK. sad

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#192748: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:27:24 AM

Bah, let him come. The poor snowflake will be triggered by all the protesters.

edited 11th Jun '17 9:27:41 AM by Rationalinsanity

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#192749: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:27:28 AM

[up][up]This is, however, Trump and May. Who knows? <shrugs>

[up]Yeah, I'd love to see what happens near any pubs... And, trust me: any procession goes near a few. evil grin

edited 11th Jun '17 9:28:46 AM by Euodiachloris

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#192750: Jun 11th 2017 at 9:28:21 AM

So it turns out that Perry is really enjoying leading the Department of Energy and is enthusiastically defending it, truly this timeline is bizarre.

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