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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#192501: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:08:17 PM

He's already doing it. "Democrat obstruction", anyone? Like we actually have the power to obstruct anything.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#192502: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:08:22 PM

I don't think that it says anything positive about the US voter that they pick "snappy" over "well reasoned". Honestly, election shouldn't be decided on three word phrases (Yes he can, lock her up, drain the swamp)

Again, especially in the U.S, I wouldn't dare to say it's Trump's charisma or wile that got him the election. Again, remember the U.S votes are basically like this:

Out of 100%, 40% can't be arsed to vote.

Out of the remaining 60%, about 25% will, regardless of anything, vote Democrat. Out of the remaining 35%, about 25% will, regardless of anything, vote Republican.

The remaining 10% will decide the election, and that's about uh. 25 million people, of voting age population that decide each election.

To put it in perspective, that's the amount of twitter followers the NBA or Emma Watson has, it's the amount of subscribers Youtube Spotlight, the official Youtube Youtube channel has. It sounds like a huge number but comparatively? It's basically a cointoss for a country of 250,056,000 voting age population.

So basically 300 million people let 25 million people decide their fate because of stupid partisanship and the edgelordiness of "haha I don't vote lol"

edited 8th Jun '17 3:09:46 PM by Aszur

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#192503: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:08:25 PM

[up][up][up]Seriously, you really should stop talking in absolute certainties concerning things happening three and half years from now.

We've already had discussions of pessimism vs. optimism vs. realism, but you're just straight up being defeatist.

edited 8th Jun '17 3:09:44 PM by LSBK

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#192504: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:10:45 PM

In life, nothing is certain. When you're as stupid as America, some things are more possible than others.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#192505: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:12:19 PM

[up]x2 A big part of my optimism died on 11/9.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#192506: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:12:34 PM

Let's not forget the shitload of voter suppression that the GOP will pass in other to rig the elections in their favor. It's not always apathy.

edited 8th Jun '17 3:12:49 PM by fruitpork

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#192507: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:13:24 PM

[up][up]I'm not even talking about being optimistic, though. Just not "the worst thing ever is always going to happen, always."

edited 8th Jun '17 3:14:09 PM by LSBK

Tempus22 Since: Jan, 2015
#192508: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:13:41 PM

Well, at the very least Clinton did win the popular vote? I guess that counts for something.

Not in this country, mind you. But, like, for us. tongue

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#192509: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:18:02 PM

Someone is comparing Trump's behaviour towards Comey in their meetings to sexual harassment. Add to this Trump's penchant for unsolicited hugs. Any ideas on this? I think it makes sense.

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#192510: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:19:58 PM

[up]x4 You mean the voter suppression laws and tactics that Multiple Courts are striking in Multiple States? Including the Supreme Court that just struck down 2 (one Unanimously) Gerrymandering Cases from North Carolina (I think it was NC)? While I would worry about them, it appears that they are being picked apart and destroyed, and they may become a minimal problem in certain states in 2020.

edited 8th Jun '17 3:20:28 PM by DingoWalley1

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#192511: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:21:37 PM

I'm not even talking about being optimistic, though. Just not "the worst thing ever is always going to happen, always."

Trump winning in 2020 isn't the worst thing ever.

The worst thing ever is Trump being stupid enough to start a nuclear war.

Someone is comparing Trump's behaviour towards Comey in their meetings to sexual harassment. Add to this Trump's penchant for unsolicited hugs. Any ideas on this? I think it makes sense.

I've been saying since the primaries that Trump's playbook for politics is the exact same one he uses to pick up women. The entire MAGA campaign was rooted in negging America into bed with him.

We see it in the way his opinion of a person changes based entirely on how much they support his policies too. If you're willing to get into bed with him politically, you're beautiful and smart and witty and he always liked you. If you point out that his latest policy reads like it was written by a drunk monkey, then you're an ugly ho and probably a lesbian and he never liked you anyway.

edited 8th Jun '17 3:26:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#192512: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:27:09 PM

[up] Assuming a Secret Service agent or military officer doesn't eviscerate him on the spot if he tries to start a nuclear war, considering they probably still have brains in their skulls and self-preservation instincts.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#192513: Jun 8th 2017 at 3:29:06 PM

@Heap, probably a dominance thing. He tries it with everyone, and gets really annoyed when people like Trudeau and Macron dodge it.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#192514: Jun 8th 2017 at 4:32:46 PM

Regarding optimism vs. pessimism: while things are... not good, it's important to remember that if Trump and the Republicans were truly immune, Flynn would still be on the NSC.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#192515: Jun 8th 2017 at 4:35:29 PM

[up][up][up][up]That was less specifically about Trump winning reelection (but that's included) and more about the general attitude being displayed.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#192516: Jun 8th 2017 at 5:35:10 PM

[up]x5 Remember, the darkest of times call for the sunniest of smiles. Don't give up just yet.

Look at what Trump has accomplished: making the country care about Climate Change, people holding their elected officials accountable, made people realize that their voice can make a difference, giving people a crash course in Civic responsibility, to name a few.

I know it's easy to give up, to say it's hopeless so why bother, but attitudes like that are self fulfilling prophecies.

Oh look, Trumps choice for FBI director may have ties to, you guessed it, Russia!

http://amp.usatoday.com/story/102603214/

edited 8th Jun '17 5:51:35 PM by megaeliz

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#192517: Jun 8th 2017 at 5:40:53 PM

Wow. How fucking stupid can you be? That's so fucking transparently sketchy.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#192518: Jun 8th 2017 at 5:49:51 PM

Sometimes I wonder if thats another way Putin is trolling us.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#192519: Jun 8th 2017 at 5:52:39 PM

The Republican playbook now consists of 'lie straight to investigators' faces and grasp at straws' on the most blatant things, and this will be no different.

It's been fun.
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#192520: Jun 8th 2017 at 6:13:33 PM

[up]x4 I take back what I said about Trump's FBI pick being a good choice if it's true (and let's face it; at this point, it is true).

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#192521: Jun 8th 2017 at 6:38:46 PM

This Twitter thread gives a general overview of the biggest stories to come out of Comey's Senate testimony.

  1. All Committee Republicans took Comey's word.
  2. The FBI brass decided Sessions could not participate or receive intel from the probe based on classified intel.
  3. Trump is under investigation for obstruction of justice by Mueller
  4. Comey told Trump Trump wasn't under counter-intelligence investigation, but that could change.
  5. Trump never talked with Comey about stopping Russian hacking, nor expressed any concern over it.
  6. Comey took on-site notes about Trump's obstruction, and calls for Trump to release any tapes.
  7. As of the day Comey was fired, the FBI does not know whether Trump actually colluded with the Russians.
  8. Lawyer Comey is concerned over Sessions' continued involvement with the probe despite his recusal.
  9. Comey was convinced Trump was a liar during their first meeting.
  10. Trump told no one he was going to obstruct the probe.
  11. Sessions refused to act when asked by Comey to keep Trump away from him and the probe.
  12. Comey has an ironclad memory of these events.
  13. Comey repeatedly accused Trump of being a liar and of persistent defamation.
  14. There is substantial evidence other witnesses, Kushner, Priebus, and Sessions, knew Trump was acting inappropriately.
  15. Trump has an obsession with the hooker allegation from the dossier.
  16. Comey thought Trump wanted to, in Comey's own words, "infect" a major FBI investigation.
  17. Comey thought Trump wanted Comey to drop the Flynn case and take it as an order.
  18. Trump has only ever asked about one FBI case, the one into his own.
  19. Trump lied about the loyalty oath on national TV. Comey specifically compares it to Clinton lying about having sex with Lewinsky and say what Trump lied about was far bigger.
  20. Trump's own tweets, specifically the "witness tampering" one, lead to a special Department of Justice council being formed.
  21. The Steele Dossier is under investigation by the FBI.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#192522: Jun 8th 2017 at 6:45:52 PM

[up]Is there a single chance of any of this being damning? Because it'd be nice if it was.

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#192523: Jun 8th 2017 at 6:49:36 PM

Doubtful. All that pretty much just restates what people already knew. Anything truly damning will come from the actual investigation.

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Screaming Into The Void
#192524: Jun 8th 2017 at 7:00:44 PM

Trump's own tweets, specifically the "witness tampering" one, lead to a special Department of Justice council being formed.
Did he say why? I'm not sure if I understand this one.

It won't happen, but it would be kind of funny if Comey ended up getting Trump impeached, considering his last minute investigation back in the fall probably influenced the election.

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#192525: Jun 8th 2017 at 7:53:17 PM

Considering the situation, they'll probably go "Yeah, we'll get right on that impeachment thing," proceed to forget about it ever happening and get pizza and beer.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.

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