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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Now you're just getting paranoid...
People can fucking change in these years, you get that? I don't want to threaten you either but you and Tobias are getting way too overwhelmed with bleak scenarios like these ones, bad things can happen yes, but NOT to that extent as you and him say.
edited 8th Jun '17 2:41:23 PM by Luigisan98
The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.My sense is that Trump will end by Death of a Thousand Cuts: His approval is eroding - slowly - even among Republicans.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAgain, focussing on the wording is just a distraction. We have a situation in which the president of the US asked the FBI director to drop a specific investigation and announce that he himself wasn't under investigation. A US president who repeatedly called the FBI director and spoke to him in a private setting. And when said FBI director didn't fulfil any of his demands, he fired him and announced that he did it because of said investigation. This simple act, the firing because someone was looking into a specific matter, is obstruction of justice.
The point is, we can't get complacent and we can't get arrogant. There is always a chance we'll lose. We need to evangelize the anti-Trump message ever chance we get, to whomever we meet, every second, every minute, every hour, every day, with every breath, not just in 2020, but in 2017, 2018, and 2019. All Issues Are Political Issues, and we can't leave any stone unturned.
Honestly, combating Trump is like political trench warfare. There aren't going to be any big breakthroughs. Just day after day of arduous work.
edited 8th Jun '17 2:44:58 PM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."No need to go as far as reelection time.
Just wait until next year for congress: if Dems win "bigly' there, you can bet your ass there'll be an impeachment. If they don't, I'd honestly leave the country if I lived there.
edited 8th Jun '17 2:45:42 PM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesAs I've said before, Democrats need to master the art of sound-bytes. Obama was amazing at sound-bytes. He didn't just have arguments that were well-reasoned, intelligent, and sensible. He could also make them snappy and fun to listen to.
2016 was a battleground between these two. Hillary "Well-Reasoned" Clinton vs. Donald "Snappy" Trump. Well-Reasoned won the popular vote, but Snappy won the Electoral College. More people liking facts over entertainment just wasn't enough to strike the win when the people who prefer entertainment to facts are more widely dispersed in the country.
It's like choosing between whether you'd rather have the political state of Cambodia explained to you by a documentary or The Simpsons. We all know the documentary's going to have more useful information, but a lot of folks don't have the attention span for that. They want to laugh at Bart farting in Hun Sen's face, and anything they actually learn about Cambodia will be absorbed through that experience, even if it's woefully inaccurate.
That's the state of America today, and the best way we can deal with it is to be funny and entertaining, while also being right. What we need is more Democrats trained at summarizing complex political concepts into clever one-liners that people will be repeating at work tomorrow.
edited 8th Jun '17 2:48:21 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Trump wasn't even snappy though he was just childish. I appreciate wit and humor but constantly interrupting her during debates just to meme at people isn't a witty retort, it's just attention mongering. People loved it cuz'it's so radically different to the status quo, not because it's actually clever.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesWe're trying, dude, we really are.
Frankly, it depends on how the economy is doing by then. Currently, we are experiencing a slow recovery, but it isnt evenly distributed. The working class is still suffering, and if they still are in three years, that will sink him.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.Honestly though nothing would be more amusing than watching Trump screaming and howling all the way through the impeachment process if the Democrats really do win a large amount of votes in 2018
This would be me if that's the case
This would be me if that's the case
I strongly agree with that. Even better if he starts live-tweeting his own impeachment.
This, incidentally, would be me.
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Not this quickly, it's not. This is Trump's honeymoon phase. The period of Presidency before people realize the President isn't going to instantly solve all of America's problems and give them infinite money and free candy.
Historically, this is the highest his approval rating will ever be.
edited 8th Jun '17 3:04:17 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Since they started recording them, Trump has the lowest approval ratings of any president this early. The reason that caveat is in there is because basically every president (except Obama) tends to have a severe drop in approval ratings near the end of their run. I'm pretty sure W. Bush was lower at one point.

I think anyone who thinks Trump can't possibly get re-elected underestimates how wilfully ignorant people can be. A lot of people will simply stick with him because they don't want to admit they were wrong, because people are petty like that. And not everyone has access to the information we have either, a lot of people's only exposure is the right-wing media that's verbally kissing Trump's feet no matter what he does. I think it really depends on how good the Dems will be on making their voices heard. Sadly nowadays it mostly seems to matter how loud you are, not what you're actually saying.