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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#191976: Jun 5th 2017 at 1:37:56 PM

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The DNC leadership, sure, but she's blaming the rank-and-file for her not winning, along with the press for making a huge deal about her emails (fair point) and Comey for dropping that October Surprise (fair point again). But when she's doing that amount of finger-pointing at once, people are going to mock her for it.

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#191977: Jun 5th 2017 at 1:45:47 PM

@ironballs — Hillary lost by an incredibly narrow margin. You're saying that if she'd just done a little more in the handful of states were Trump barely squeaked by, then she would have beaten him. Which is true. However, 1) this is with the benefit of hindsight, and 2) it's also true that if she hadn't been the victim of Russian meddling and government officials misusing their positions, she wouldn't have lost either. People focus on the Russia/FBI angle because those go against the idea of free and fair elections, which is a rather bigger issue than Clinton not doing as well as she could have (according to us Monday-morning quarterbacks).

And honestly, what does it matter? Hillary lost. She's expressed no interest in remaining in politics. Even if you're 100% right and she lost solely because she's bad at election campaigns, what difference does that make at this point?

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#191978: Jun 5th 2017 at 1:45:54 PM

The Intercept: NSA report details Russian hacking effort days before 2016 US election

USSIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE executed a cyberattack on at least one U.S. voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than 100 local election officials just days before last November’s presidential election, according to a highly classified intelligence report obtained by The Intercept.

The top-secret National Security Agency document, which was provided anonymously to The Intercept and independently authenticated, analyzes intelligence very recently acquired by the agency about a months-long Russian intelligence cyber effort against elements of the U.S. election and voting infrastructure. The report, dated May 5, 2017, is the most detailed U.S. government account of Russian interference in the election that has yet come to light.

The report indicates that Russian hacking may have penetrated further into U.S. voting systems than was previously understood. It states unequivocally in its summary statement that it was Russian military intelligence, specifically the Russian General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate, or GRU, that conducted the cyber attacks described in the document:

Russian General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate actors … executed cyber espionage operations against a named U.S. company in August 2016, evidently to obtain information on elections-related software and hardware solutions. … The actors likely used data obtained from that operation to … launch a voter registration-themed spear-phishing campaign targeting U.S. local government organizations.

Um...holy shit.

o.O

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#191979: Jun 5th 2017 at 1:49:16 PM

[up]At this point I think I should just break out the Sharpies for people who believe anything on RT or Sputnik without outside confirmation, but then it would get me banned from most establishments here in a huge hurry. Not like I have a social life anyway.

And Greenwald, you believed them anyway. Get stuffed.

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#191980: Jun 5th 2017 at 1:52:44 PM

GOP strategists plot anti-media strategy for 2018 elections. Er... Does this remind anyone else of fascism?

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#191981: Jun 5th 2017 at 1:53:25 PM

Do we have another source besides The Intercept on the Russian thing?

Oh really when?
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#191982: Jun 5th 2017 at 1:58:31 PM

[up][up]So their strategy is basically going to be screaming "FAKE NEWS" whenever the press says something they don't like.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#191983: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:03:49 PM

CBS news on Twitter confirmed its real along with multiple journalists from the NYT.

It's legit

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#191984: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:06:43 PM

So the Russians did Tamper with actual Voting Booths!surprised

Depending on how wide, and where, these tamperings were, Trump could actually be an illegitimate President...

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#191985: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:06:57 PM

[up][up] Well...shit. surprised

edited 5th Jun '17 2:07:07 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#191986: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:08:30 PM

[up][up][up]Source for the confirm?

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#191987: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:09:38 PM

I'm not seeing any stories on it

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#191988: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:14:17 PM

GOP strategists plot anti-media strategy for 2018 elections. Er... Does this remind anyone else of fascism?

Whaaaat, it's not like fascism has a word for an anti-media political campaign that's been reiterated by the Siberian Candidate.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
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#191989: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:17:22 PM

The stupid thing is that the mainstream media (save Fox, which is unabashedly partisan) has for a long time been giving right-wing points of view too much credibility in the name of fairness and neutrality. They've been getting way more favorable media treatment than they deserve, and this has contributed to an environment in which it is possible for Republicans to win elections despite having no command of facts or logic.

They should be bowing down to CNN and worshiping them in thankfulness. Instead, as soon as they dare to call out their shenanigans, they're "fake news".

edited 5th Jun '17 2:18:35 PM by Fighteer

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#191990: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:20:58 PM

My thing is I'd figure more people would be skeptical of the "fake news" claim if coincidentally the only one that isn't fake is the one that's always telling you what you want to hear. I get that it's comforting and all, and everyone wants that, but you'd think more people would at least take a cursory glance before the write off...

But I guess that's just where we are now...

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#191992: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:24:50 PM

Not seeing anything on CBS News twitter....seems a bit thin, yet.

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#191993: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:33:14 PM

Why isn't this on the direct CBS news twitter?

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#191994: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:34:21 PM

One thing I've noticed about the Trump supporters within my own family is that when Trump is removed from the picture, they suddenly care about Russian meddling, climate change, immigration and refugees. Once Trump is mentioned however, the news is suddenly biased and exaggerating everything.

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#191995: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:35:57 PM

[up][up]Part of me suspects is because CBS is furiously typing up a proper article, sources and all, before they put it up officially

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#191996: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:36:02 PM

[up][up]It's and odd effect he has for some reason.

edited 5th Jun '17 2:36:21 PM by LSBK

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#191997: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:38:42 PM

CNN hasn't broken it either. They're still talking about Orlando, Trump pissing on the graves of London terror victims, and the Comey hearings.

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#191999: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:40:46 PM

I'm waiting for confirmation from a source better than The Intercept.

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#192000: Jun 5th 2017 at 2:49:29 PM

Here it is, from CBS News

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