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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#191926: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:40:17 AM

Hillary again? The election is over. The best thing to do is take some of the lessons we have learned from this election, and apply it to special elections and later the house elections in 2018. We can deal with the Next presidential election comes.

edited 5th Jun '17 10:49:43 AM by megaeliz

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#191927: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:40:53 AM

@firewriter: If you don't mind telling me, what did you find objectionable about Clinton?

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#191928: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:42:03 AM

As someone who voted for Gary Johnson in protest of thinking both candidates were unfavorable, I really wished for someone other than Hilary and actually was interested in Bernie had won the nomination instead of her.

See, that is an anti-Hillary vote. A vote for "F*ck Hillary, but seriously, f*ck Trump too."

A vote for Donald Trump is not an anti-Hillary vote, because there were other options besides having to vote for one or the other. A vote for Donald Trump is a vote that says, "F*ck Hillary, but also let's get this Trump guy into office, because I like the cut of his jib."

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#191929: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:43:04 AM

"I'm not Pro-Trump, I'm Anti-Hillary" is and has always been a responsibility-shirking scapegoat. There were plenty of options in the election that weren't Hillary. Those people could have voted for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson. They could have wrote in "Bernie Sanders". They could have chosen to abstain from voting in protest like many Democrats did.

I don't think you're getting it.

Anti-Hillary means "I dislike/hate Hillary and want her to lose therefore I will vote for the person most likely to beat her" not "I hate Trump and Hillary but fuck it I'll go for Trump".

edited 5th Jun '17 10:44:31 AM by MadSkillz

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#191931: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:47:51 AM

When it comes to the "didn't vote for Trump but voted against Clinton" crowd, the same question always comes to my mind:

"Would you still say, after all that's happened since the election, that keeping Hillary Clinton out of the Oval Office was worth putting Donald Trump into it?"

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#191932: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:48:34 AM

[up][up][up]Basically that. I don't think most of us agree with that sentiment, but voting for Trump doesn't necessarily mean that you want his wall or Muslim ban.

I talked to a classmate who voted for him, with her logic being that hopefully the people around him would reign him in, while Hilary was already a known terrible for her. I vehemently disagree with that position, but I at least acknowledge that "go bigotry!" was not what she was trying to go for.

[up]This also a good question.

edited 5th Jun '17 10:49:32 AM by LSBK

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#191933: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:49:35 AM

Oh, by the way, Tobias, you're mistaken about most of Trump's base being people who'll stay with him no matter what. The proportion of people who strongly approve of him has been shrinking quite a bit. His base wanted results, and they've gotten four months of nothing.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#191934: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:49:59 AM

[up][up]Yeah, I can't comprehend voting for someone essentially because of their incompetence

edited 5th Jun '17 10:50:58 AM by sgamer82

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#191935: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:52:17 AM

[up] That's pretty much why Jill Stein claimed Trump would be less dangerous than HRC.

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#191936: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:54:01 AM

Trump is a conman, helped by far right media. He is really good at selling people stuff. If you watch many of his mannerisms, they are identical to those snake oil salesman who prey on the gullible, the undereducated.

edited 5th Jun '17 10:55:10 AM by megaeliz

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#191937: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:54:03 AM

Welp. We're officially crossing another line.

There are already political leaders in America calling for genocide aka mass killings of suspected radicalized Muslims:

Louisiana Rep. Clay Higgins (R) responded to an attack in downtown London over the weekend by calling for a mass extrajudicial killing of people suspected of adhering to “radicalized” Islam.

“Not one penny of American treasure should be granted to any nation who harbors these heathen animals. Not a single radicalized Islamic suspect should be granted any measure of quarter,” he wrote. “Hunt them, identify them, and kill them. Kill them all. For the sake of all that is good and righteous. Kill them all.”

Notably, Higgins advocated for the killing of anyone even suspected of having links to terrorism, and gave no definition of how that should be determined. He described the fight as a “war” between Christendom and “Islamic horror,” echoing a rallying cry of the far-right.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#191938: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:55:59 AM

[up] I'll worry when more people in the gov't start spewing this shit.

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#191939: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:56:31 AM

So Comey is scheduled to testify publically in front of the senate this Thursday. Anyone planning to go watch?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/05/politics/comey-testimony-trump/index.html

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#191940: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:57:18 AM

I won't due to with schedule but I'm already seeing headiness about Republicans trying to tank his credibility ahead of time.

Conservatives torch Comey’s credibility ahead of Senate hearing

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/article154301929.html

edited 5th Jun '17 10:57:42 AM by sgamer82

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#191941: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:59:23 AM

Guess I was wrong in betting on the UK to open the death camps first.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
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#191942: Jun 5th 2017 at 10:59:35 AM

[up][up]"Putin has told us he didn't do it and I believe him" -GOP [lol]

edited 5th Jun '17 10:59:44 AM by carbon-mantis

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#191944: Jun 5th 2017 at 11:02:43 AM

[up]Get screenshots before it's deleted.

edited 5th Jun '17 11:03:21 AM by megaeliz

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#191945: Jun 5th 2017 at 11:03:01 AM

And he's a former cop. Fantastic, we have a Schutzstaffel.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#191946: Jun 5th 2017 at 11:05:09 AM

[up]One lunatic does not equate to opening death camps or a Schutzstaffel. Seriously, it's important to keep an eye on these things, but that's not helping.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#191947: Jun 5th 2017 at 11:08:30 AM

I don't know, considering how happy cops in the US are when they get to fill people with lead, I'm pretty sure if the House declared open season on 'suspected terrorists' they'd happily go ask the Army if they could buy a Browning for all those shiny surplus MRAPS they have.

They've been winding up to this for a while. I'm expecting more people to agree or at least protect the Representative.

edited 5th Jun '17 11:09:58 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#191948: Jun 5th 2017 at 11:08:51 AM

Well we did have the Trump administration not rule out internment camps.

edited 5th Jun '17 11:09:23 AM by MadSkillz

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#191949: Jun 5th 2017 at 11:10:16 AM

[up][up]As someone else said, I'll worry about that when it's more than just one Representative. And knowing how these things go, the guy is likely going to try and back away and pretend like it never happened. Which is infuriating but still indicative that where still a far ways off from what you're implying.

edited 5th Jun '17 11:10:45 AM by LSBK

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#191950: Jun 5th 2017 at 11:11:04 AM

Trump is not helping his case with his tweets about his Muslim Ban. I'm pretty sure these can be used against him in court.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/336319-trump-i-am-calling-it-a-travel-ban?amp


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