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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#191751: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:43:53 PM

In any case, she's apologized multiple times and conservatives are using this to smear every liberal ever.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#191752: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:46:39 PM

I wonder how long it'll take for Texas to pass laws banning its cities from acting to support Paris?

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#191753: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:50:03 PM

[up] they're probably already drafting them.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#191754: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:51:01 PM

Not that I doubt that some are going to try, I wonder how that would hold up in court.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#191755: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:55:38 PM

I don't think any state is crazy enough to try to make 'let's try to not pollute as much' illegal.

edited 3rd Jun '17 4:55:56 PM by Gilphon

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#191756: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:56:37 PM

You'd be surprised. The movement against the Paris Accord is entirely motivated by spite.

Oh really when?
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#191757: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:56:53 PM

We've had states force through dick police bills just to spite cities. It wouldn't surprise me if they try to force the GOP line.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#191758: Jun 3rd 2017 at 5:00:19 PM

If states would do that, it'd sort of remind me of that law in Ancient Sparta which required people to beat their slaves. As in, you'd be punished for not beating them. Or so I've heard. Not quite as extreme, but it has the same principle of 'punish people for choosing to be okay'.

edited 3rd Jun '17 5:00:47 PM by PresidentStalkeyes

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#191759: Jun 3rd 2017 at 5:03:47 PM

Sure, but what they're actually saying is 'I refuse to commit to anything, and in fact probably won't do anything'. Refusing to commit to something and then doing nothing is easy. Making it illegal to do things is significantly harder.

Like, what, do you imagine will have police going around, knocking on some CEO's door, and saying 'your company hasn't been meeting it's CO2 quota this year. You're under arrest'? That's just silly. Nobody's going to make a serious effort at making anything like that happening.

They might try to do some similar 'threatening to withhold funding unless you cut out that Paris Accord thing', but that wouldn't be making it illegal to follow the Paris Accord, it'd be breaking the law in a really transparent way that the courts would kill almost immediately.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#191760: Jun 3rd 2017 at 5:05:09 PM

There's been two terrorist attacks in London tonight. Trump's drawn a bit of attention for his tweets in response to it.

His first tweet was to quote the Drudge Report, which claims a van mowed down twenty people. The Met are only saying 5-6 people have been affected for now, nothing else confirmed. In fairness, there are indications more people than that have indeed been affected and we know there are fatalities (more than one is all we know right now). The point is that Trump's first tweet was to retweet a rumour instead of a fact from a reputable news source that's on scene, or from one of the British authorities.

His second tweet was to use London to demand the courts restore Americans rights and reinstate the Travel ban.

His third tweet got around to finally giving the standard foreign leader message of support to London.

All three tweets have been flooded by Americans lambasting him for not making his third tweet his first tweet...

Fears of new terror attack after van 'mows down 20 people' on London Bridge...

We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!

Whatever the United States can do to help out in London and the U. K., we will be there - WE ARE WITH YOU. GOD BLESS!

edited 3rd Jun '17 5:11:41 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#191761: Jun 3rd 2017 at 5:05:40 PM

Trump is already trying to kill funding to cities accepting refugees and still following through with the Sanctuary Cities promise.

Don't put it past Republicans, they are that petty and that spiteful.

Oh really when?
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#191762: Jun 3rd 2017 at 5:08:29 PM

Which is a thing that's closer to having a reasonable justification and is still super unlikely to make it through the courts because of the fact that it's very explicitly illegal.

edited 3rd Jun '17 5:08:59 PM by Gilphon

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#191764: Jun 3rd 2017 at 5:36:46 PM

Okay, who called it? I know someone said Pittsburgh should do this exact thing.

i'm tired, my friend
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#191765: Jun 3rd 2017 at 6:08:29 PM

[up]I did. cool

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#191766: Jun 3rd 2017 at 6:23:20 PM

Kim Weaver Dropping Out of Congressional Race

http://whotv.com/2017/06/03/kim-weaver-dropping-out-of-congressional-race/

IOWA — Democratic candidate for Congress Kim Weaver has announced she is dropping out of the race.

Weaver, a former candidate in the race for a House seat in Iowa’s 4th Congressional District, was the only opponent against Republican Representative Steve King.

She said recent events including death threats, personal health risks, and family health issues all played a role in her decision to withdraw from the race. She also noted all the funds previously raised will be “distributed within the district to continue to oppose Steve King” and that she wants to see progress continue in the area.

Weaver’s full announcement can be seen in a post on her Facebook page.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#191767: Jun 3rd 2017 at 6:53:13 PM

For Texas to impose restrictions on cities meeting the conditions of the Paris agreement ignores that one, Texas has a growing wind energy industry going on, two, that major oil companies are investing in renewable resources because it's profitable, and three, that Republicans in Texas tend to not want to piss of their friendly oil swilling neighbors.

So... yeah, I very much doubt the Texas legislature will do that. And, apparently, Texas produces more wind energy than the next three combined. Yee haw!

http://www.npr.org/2017/03/08/518988840/wind-energy-takes-flight-in-the-heart-of-texas-oil-country

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#191768: Jun 3rd 2017 at 7:05:08 PM

Apparently Kasich has criticized Trump's pulling out of Paris too.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#191769: Jun 3rd 2017 at 8:37:43 PM

It got rolled into the more broadly planned March for Truth that happened today. (The original subject was Russia investigations.)

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#191770: Jun 3rd 2017 at 8:45:31 PM

Imagine how this whole thing must be irritating Trump right now. He pulls out of the Paris thing out of spite...and then a huge chunk, if not a majority, of the country goes right back in, ignoring him in ways that he can't do anything about.

He's going to try and claim it as a victory, but trying to prevent something and everyone just does it behind your back anyway, and make it really obvious they're doing so is pretty much a failure.

edited 3rd Jun '17 8:46:19 PM by Zendervai

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#191771: Jun 3rd 2017 at 8:47:38 PM

I mean. 100% of the country was in before. Now only some of it is. It's a net gain for climate change.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#191772: Jun 3rd 2017 at 8:49:21 PM

It's a shame, but the reaction has been inspiring.

Nine states have officially signed on and a bunch more have criticized the move.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#191773: Jun 3rd 2017 at 8:51:19 PM

Who's joined in on this alliance, again?

edited 3rd Jun '17 8:51:31 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#191774: Jun 3rd 2017 at 8:57:04 PM

Officially, CA,WA,NY, MA,VT,RI, OR, CT, and HI, but a bunch of other governors and state legislatures have condemned leaving the agreement.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#191775: Jun 3rd 2017 at 9:08:36 PM

@ that congresswoman dropping out: death threats? The fuck?


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