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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#191626: Jun 2nd 2017 at 7:31:05 PM

Former mayor of New York City pledges $15M to UN to cover US climate share

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/336143-bloomberg-pledges-15-million-to-un-to-repay-us-climate-debt?amp

Governor of Massachuetts joined the Climate Alliance formed by New York, Washington, and California. And he's a Republican.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/336169-republican-governor-joins-coalition-to-uphold-paris-climate

Is it horrible that it takes Trump to make us get our act together on climate?

Update: since that story was written, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Vermont have joined

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Climate_Alliance

edited 2nd Jun '17 7:45:44 PM by megaeliz

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#191627: Jun 2nd 2017 at 7:42:59 PM

Well people tend to pull it together when things are going or have gone tits up.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#191628: Jun 2nd 2017 at 7:44:17 PM

Sometimes humans need to lose what they've got to begin to understand the value of it.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
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#191629: Jun 2nd 2017 at 7:48:54 PM

I wonder if Trump will try and limit state power as a result of this. Which would then doubtlessly lose him a lot of his own party, since state power has always been a Republican favourite, from what I've seen in the news. That is, assuming they genuinely care about state power as opposed to only invoking it when the state in question agrees with them and there's a Democrat in the White House.

edited 2nd Jun '17 7:49:33 PM by PresidentStalkeyes

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#191630: Jun 2nd 2017 at 7:49:43 PM

It's impressive if something actually comes of it

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#191631: Jun 2nd 2017 at 7:54:13 PM

[up][up] If any of Trump's team committed crimes in NY, they're absolutely fucked.

Trump can pardon Federal Crimes, but state crimes he can't touch.

New Survey coming this weekend!
fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#191632: Jun 2nd 2017 at 7:57:31 PM

[up][up] I dunno...

[up] they can't? I thought they could pardon any crime.

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#191633: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:03:09 PM

I admit I don't know much on that subject, but I think the President does have a limit on what they can give a pardon on. Otherwise everyone would be begging the President for a get out of jail free card.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#191634: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:05:09 PM

[up][up] Same with pretty much any coastal state except North Carolina.

edited 2nd Jun '17 8:05:23 PM by FireCrawler2002

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#191635: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:05:21 PM

Nope, federal law only. Obama would have probably done a lot more for over-sentencing on minor drug offenses if he could pardon/commute at the state level.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#191636: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:05:56 PM

[up]x4: No-federal crimes only, and accepting a pardon is also considered an admission of guilt; also, the judiciary can explicitly reject a pardon, though to my knowledge this has never happened yet.

[up][nja], [nja] everywhere.

edited 2nd Jun '17 8:06:25 PM by ViperMagnum357

PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
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#191637: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:06:55 PM

If anything, these states' decision to take matters into their own hands actually seems pretty clever, because Trump is caught in a Catch-22.

  • Trump does nothing, making him look 'weak' and harming his future re-election prospects.
  • Trump overrules these States' decisions, causing a lot of republicans and other right-wingers to denounce him or resign, harming his future re-election prospects.
  • Trump overrules these States' decisions and nobody bats an eye, exposing the republicans as hypocrites... thus harming his (and their) future re-election prospects.
  • Some combination of B and C (some denounce him, some don't)... which harms his future re-election prospects.

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#191638: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:08:29 PM

[up]No Republican is asking for his walking papers, and right now none of them have offered meaningful resistance to his initiatives.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#191639: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:08:43 PM

[up][up]I mean, Republicans only wanting to delegate things to the states when they know the states are going to do what they want should be pretty obvious by now. Not sure if Trump or the Republicans trying to do anything would make it more obvious. Then again, everything looks worse when associated with Trump, except to his most die-hard supporters.

edited 2nd Jun '17 8:09:32 PM by LSBK

PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
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#191640: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:11:28 PM

[up][up]I know, but I meant if they did denounce him in the hypothetical situation of him meddling in these states' affairs, they'd do so because he was meddling in states' affairs, not because said states were paying to help the environment. I'm not entirely sure how seriously the Republicans take states' rights on the whole.

edited 2nd Jun '17 8:11:43 PM by PresidentStalkeyes

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#191641: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:12:09 PM

The states that have joined represent a good chunk of the US economy. How will this effect states that follow Trump and don't join the alliance?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#191642: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:15:11 PM

[up][up]I know, but I meant if they did denounce him in the hypothetical situation of him meddling in these states' affairs, they'd do so because he was meddling in states' affairs, not because said states were paying to help the environment. I'm not entirely sure how seriously the Republicans take states' rights on the whole.
How important states rights are to the GOP is inversely proportional to how much federal power they wield.

LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#191643: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:17:42 PM

I wonder if any further states are going to join, and what this means.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
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#191644: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:18:50 PM

Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin wants to create volunteer groups to pray on streets in cities... In order to reduce Crime. I am not making this up.

It's optimistic as hell, but not only would it violate the 1st Amendment, it would not reduce crime, and it would get more people killed.

PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
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#191645: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:20:10 PM

Makes me wonder if he'll be able to win New Hampshire again in 2020. From what I remember of that US Politics module I took (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), NH is a libertarian hotbed and one of the key swing states. It would explain why they voted for him given his pretensions towards being anti-big government, but I can't imagine them voting for him again if he becomes the big government. Edit: Ignore that, I'm an idiot.

[up]Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff :P

Reminds me of the Left Behind video game I remember seeing listed in So Bad, It's Good. Apparently it was an RTS that involved people frantically praying out in the streets of NYC to avoid having their faith eroded by hordes of buskers.

edited 2nd Jun '17 8:28:36 PM by PresidentStalkeyes

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#191646: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:24:02 PM

[up] New Hampshire went solidly Clinton in 2016. It was Maine that gave Trump 1 Electoral College Vote, and it was the only vote from New England to go to Trump. I'm almost certain that most Libertarians are solidly against Trump.

I know I am.

[down] SJW outcry in 3... 2... (At least they aren't hypocritical, like a lot of Republicans are. They will at least rage about Liberals doing anti-PC things.)

edited 2nd Jun '17 8:25:27 PM by DingoWalley1

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
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Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#191648: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:26:28 PM

[up][up]Whoops. My mistake.

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#191649: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:33:57 PM

Bill Maher continues to be an ass. What a surprise.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#191650: Jun 2nd 2017 at 8:41:57 PM

"Governor of Massachuetts joined the Climate Alliance formed by New York, Washington, and California. And he's a Republican."

Baker is the Bluest Republican, tho.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

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