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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#191376: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:16:43 PM

[up] I am an American Libertarian. tongue

And what would you call the 'orderly' destruction of the Federal Government? It's not even Minarchism to actively destroy a Government!

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#191377: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:18:49 PM

Even Hillary is jumping in to the covfefe jokes train.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#191378: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:21:50 PM

[up][up] Anarchy means the end of hierarchy, not government.

You can have a government without hierarchy and you can have hierarchy without a government.

He's an anti-Fedralist. Not that he still wants state government to exist.

edited 1st Jun '17 3:22:16 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#191379: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:22:19 PM

[up][up]This is why Hilldawg is Bae.

edited 1st Jun '17 3:22:28 PM by TacticalFox88

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#191380: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:23:37 PM

[up][up][up][up]Heh, nothing personal. My father's also Libertarian, but fundamentally I believe that American Libertarinism is a cancerous movement that would prove just as destructive as the Republicans if it ever had control.

On the issue of Anarchism I would not consider him one because he most certainly not opposed to Hierarchy or a supporter of radical egalitarianism. Like the Libertarian Party as a whole he's simply a defacto supporter of Corporatocracy.

edited 1st Jun '17 3:28:58 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#191381: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:27:24 PM

Trump, you're a fucking idiot. Peace out.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#191382: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:29:24 PM

[up]Truer words have never been spoken.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#191383: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:36:30 PM

Since I skipped a bit with my earlier post(I left the page open for a few hours and forgot to reload), now that I'm up to speed allow me to plug this 538 article again on the issue of whether Biden's running or not, and remind you all that he had done 5 of the 7 things listed there when the article was written, and has since done a 6th. So Biden might as well have already announced a run.

And Sanders will probably try to run too, seeing as many times the candidate who ends up second place in one primary season tries again (and wins) the next cycle.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#191384: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:38:20 PM

[up]I don't mind Biden running but I would be lying if I said that Sanders running would make me anything other than unhappy. I just don't think that he would be a good candidate or a good president, that said I would vote for him over Trump any day (which doesn't really say much).

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#191385: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:44:22 PM

Sanders is pretty old already.....

Anyway, a number of democratic states have declared that no matter what Trump says or does, THEY will try to fulfil the agreement.

In short, after the US enemies have started to push the boundaries and the US allies have more or less said "yeah, have fun, we will move forward in the direction WE like no matter what you demand" now even the US states have stopped listening to the President. What a strong leader.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#191386: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:51:25 PM

Fuck no, on Biden. It was ONLY because of extremely specific circumstances that I fully supported Hillary even though she was 68, going on 69. Otherwise, I would've said no to her running.

A man in his mid 70s? Lord have mercy, no.

edited 1st Jun '17 3:51:48 PM by TacticalFox88

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#191387: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:57:32 PM

Pai being a asshole, trying to justify killing Net Neutrality by saying that Broadband isn't Telecommunications: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#191388: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:08:09 PM

Disney president Bob Iger is leaving Trump's CEO presidential council over Trump's leaving of Paris agreements.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#191389: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:08:51 PM

[up][up] Pai's an idiot. When you consistently have to resort to twisting the language and pretending that words mean entirely different things all of a sudden, your position might not be very good.

edited 1st Jun '17 4:09:06 PM by Zendervai

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#191390: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:12:01 PM

[up][up] Smooth move, knucklehead. You just lost both Elon Musk and Robert Iger.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#191391: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:13:13 PM

I think there has been entirely too much covfefe of this covfefuffle

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#191392: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:20:36 PM

I'm shocked these two stayed for so long. Did they think they could restrain him from his worst excesses?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#191393: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:21:14 PM

Not sure if I should applaud Bob Iger or be aghast that it took so long for him to do so....

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#191394: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:22:29 PM

[up]Trying to restrain Trump and provide good advise is hardly a bad thing. Sure it amounted to nothing in the end but I don't believe that it should inherently be seen as a bad thing.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
bobwolf from anywhere Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: That's rough, buddy
#191395: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:25:20 PM

[up] That's a generous interpretation of his actions. All those CEO's stayed because they didn't want to drive Trump voters away from their business or thought they could take advantage of him to get some sort of regulation they wanted. Everything about the man during the campaign should have told them that he was a dangerous lost cause.

edited 1st Jun '17 4:26:30 PM by bobwolf

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#191396: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:28:46 PM

[up]That is a fair point, it would be irrational to assume they're doing it for altruistic reasons. But that doesn't mean that the Presidential advisory council was a bad thing, still I would argue that it's solidly a non-issue in that I doubt Trump gave a damn what they said.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
bobwolf from anywhere Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: That's rough, buddy
#191397: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:30:36 PM

[up] On the last point, I'm in total agreement.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#191398: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:37:14 PM

Considering his approval ratings, being anti-Trump is probably best for the bottom lines of most businesses....

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#191399: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:44:24 PM

I think you can count the number of CE Os who are explicitly pro-Trump, on two hands or so.

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bobwolf from anywhere Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: That's rough, buddy
#191400: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:46:20 PM

[up][up] He's still got like 40% of the country on his side. And it's taken till now to get to that.


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