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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#191076: May 30th 2017 at 9:01:05 PM

At the risk of suggesting false equivalence, I'm legitimately curious, are there anything like the number of violent incidents from the opposite end of the spectrum from the crazy right wingers like this guy?

Actually this guy appears to have had beliefs from all over the spectrum. He not only believed all the right wing conspiracy stuff, he also subscribed to the left-wing lunacy about "the DNC cheated Sanders" etc. His Facebook feed is a nightmare of hard-right, fringe left crazy, with no real unifying factors beyond an undying hatred of basically everyone.

Sample post.

Before someone feels the need to comment that this guy isn't representative of the Sanders fanbase, I will say that of course he's not. I'd hesitate to say he's even a member of that fanbase. He's not even that representative of the Trump fanbase (though he trends way closer there). He's got the political equivalent of multiple personalities, drawing mostly from the neofascist right, but falling back on leftist conspiracy theories when it helps him justify what appears to be a misanthropic dislike of essentially the entire world.

EDIT: Though to answer the main part of the question, no, there is very little violence on the American left that is comparable to that of the American right. The Unabomber and the Weather Underground are about the only examples I can think of that represent clear, leftist violence in the States, as opposed to countless examples of it from right-wing militia nuts, Klansmen, etc.

edited 30th May '17 9:32:36 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#191077: May 30th 2017 at 9:47:39 PM

Regarding Flynn turning over documents, that's either really good or really bad.

  • It's good if he's doing it because the threat of holding him in contempt of court got to him.
  • It's bad if he's doing it because the narrowed scope of the request wound up excluding the incriminating stuff, meaning he can now turn over the documents and go, "See? Nothing there! Y'all are barking up the wrong tree!"

Unless they actually find a smoking gun in there, I'm betting on the latter. He's already risked prosecution by blowing off the previous subpoenas, so it's clear at this juncture that he does not respond to threats. It's hard for me to see him suddenly turning around and squealing without being offered anything in return.

edited 30th May '17 9:48:27 PM by TobiasDrake

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#191078: May 30th 2017 at 9:51:51 PM

[up][up]Maybe im remenbering wrong, but the guy didnt the guy who shoot kennedy was castro fan? sure maybe im taking out my ass here but I think I hear that somewhere.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#191079: May 30th 2017 at 9:54:51 PM

New from Trump's Twitter:

Despite the constant negative press covfefe

Truly, the wisest words he has yet tweeted.

Wonder how long before it's deleted and replaced with something only semi-illegible

edited 30th May '17 9:55:47 PM by sgamer82

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#191080: May 30th 2017 at 10:03:44 PM

Twitter is on fire with that Trump tweet.

[lol][lol]

New Survey coming this weekend!
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#191081: May 30th 2017 at 10:06:53 PM

I know this is a comparatively minor goof to the stuff he's already done, but I think that's also what makes it so embarassing.

Like, the President of the United States can't be bothered to proof-read a tweet, of all things.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#191082: May 30th 2017 at 10:13:50 PM

A California GOP rep hiding on a roof.

Seeing GOP reps running and hiding from constituents will never stop being funny IMHO.

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#191083: May 30th 2017 at 10:14:53 PM

"Covfefe" isn't a matter of proofreading. It's so far from any possible word, except maybe "coffee", and that doesn't really work with the context.

"Despite the constant negative press, coffee"

Covfefe is the result of falling asleep at the Twitter and accidentally sending it, possibly after mashing a few keys.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#191084: May 30th 2017 at 10:16:43 PM

Because people have wondered if Trump had a stroke or something mid tweet

If he actually is dead how bad will you feel about memeing "covefefe",

edited 30th May '17 10:17:19 PM by sgamer82

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#191085: May 30th 2017 at 10:19:11 PM

[up][up]It's not actually that far away from "coverage".

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#191086: May 30th 2017 at 10:21:34 PM

[up]That's what I was thinking as well.

Fusion has the hard-hitting question that's on everyone's mind: How do you pronounce it?

  • Cov-FEE-fee
  • Cov-FEH-fay
  • COV-feef

I'm particular to 2.

edited 30th May '17 10:22:05 PM by Eschaton

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#191088: May 30th 2017 at 10:43:49 PM

Apologies for the Huffington Post link:

The Trump administration is apparently planning to roll back birth control coverage.

The White House Office of Management and Budget posted on its website that it is reviewing an interim final rule that would allow religious employers to deny contraception coverage to their female employees. The details of the rule have not been announced, but Gretchen Borchelt, the vice president of the National Women’s Law Center, said it is certain that “some women will lose birth control coverage.”

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called the move “sickening.”

“The draft rule announced today attempts to tear away women’s control over their own private health decisions and put that control in the hands of employers and politicians,” she said.

But muh religious freedom!

edited 30th May '17 10:44:55 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#191089: May 30th 2017 at 11:24:32 PM

Maybe im remenbering wrong, but the guy didnt the guy who shoot kennedy was castro fan? sure maybe im taking out my ass here but I think I hear that somewhere.

Oswald did defect to the USSR once.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#191090: May 30th 2017 at 11:44:35 PM

Oswald defected to the USSR, defected back to the USA after realizing that life in the USSR by 1959 was kind of shit (he missed bowling apparently), and then tried to defect to Cuba (this time the USA didn't let him leave).

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#191091: May 30th 2017 at 11:56:08 PM

Trump will have a secure phone, but I suspect that for it to remain secure it will have to have all calls run though certain equipment, so he can't just wonder around with it in his pocket. Even if it's a mobile it probably have to be plugged into some kind of encoding devise/scrambler to make it secure.

What's the point of securing Donald Trump's phone? Trump himself is less secure than an off-the-shelf cell.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#191092: May 31st 2017 at 12:03:55 AM

This administration seems to have trouble with blabbermouths.

Do not obey in advance.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#191093: May 31st 2017 at 1:49:30 AM

The left wing nutters can be pretty dangerous. The German RAF for example was a left wing terrorist group, though their targets were mostly politicians. But in general, they are way less prone to attacking random people, or people in general, than the right wing nutters (for the record, I count Islamic terrorists as rights wing nutters, too), who apparently think that they have the right to randomly kill people. And honestly: Took the US long enough to recognize that this is something they have to deal with. There have so many incidences with anti-state groups and people who just go and randomly attack other people and there never was some kind of acknowledgement that those attacks are a form of terrorism, too.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#191094: May 31st 2017 at 4:08:21 AM

If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS

I swear I've seen this, word by word, in the Daily Stormer and /pol/.

Inter arma enim silent leges
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#191095: May 31st 2017 at 4:26:31 AM

[up] Par for the course for those sites. Which is one major reason I don't visit them.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ThePest179 Since: Jul, 2015
#191096: May 31st 2017 at 4:54:51 AM

[up][up] That seems like a /pol/ thing to say; The Stormer is more subtle in its hatred.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#191097: May 31st 2017 at 5:38:10 AM

President Trump decided to withdraw from the Paris Agreement

Covfefefuck me over -.-

Though in more, pragmatic ways, 'details to be determined' is at this point basically Trump speech for 'postponed indefinitely'

Doesn't withdrawing from a Treaty need Senate support anyway?

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#191098: May 31st 2017 at 5:39:32 AM

Its an agreement, not a Treaty. Obama could never have gotten that past the Senate.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#191099: May 31st 2017 at 5:40:47 AM

Oh, joy. Now maybe we're lucky he's blustering and doesn't actually follow through.

Faint hopes...

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#191100: May 31st 2017 at 5:45:11 AM

...Could the UN slap sanctions on the US in response?

Because that would be amazing.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.

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