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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190651: May 25th 2017 at 11:41:47 PM

[up][up] Once again, you are coming off as being rather insensitive. Yes, we could do with a bit more optimism, but it's not like we don't have valid reasons to feel upset.

[up] That's the double-edged sword of running as an "independent" voice.

edited 25th May '17 11:44:12 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#190652: May 25th 2017 at 11:43:00 PM

[up] *Sigh* I'm sorry...but still, I don't feel it's good to keep a gloomy outlook, at least for the long-run.

You can get upset, yes. But life can go on and do whatever you need to change it.

edited 25th May '17 11:44:02 PM by Luigisan98

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190653: May 25th 2017 at 11:43:23 PM

I'm just tired of all the fear.

edited 25th May '17 11:44:54 PM by FireCrawler2002

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190654: May 25th 2017 at 11:45:19 PM

NVM

edited 25th May '17 11:45:30 PM by M84

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#190655: May 25th 2017 at 11:47:05 PM

Maybe the fact that Hannity's ratings are falling will impart some hope. wink

Do not obey in advance.
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#190656: May 25th 2017 at 11:49:03 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] Even they know that hope is important to them no matter what. As long as they have support, they'll be fine.

edited 25th May '17 11:49:39 PM by Luigisan98

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190657: May 25th 2017 at 11:51:39 PM

I don't acknowledge right-wingers as human anymore. They are just vermin that deserve nothing but destruction in my eyes.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#190658: May 25th 2017 at 11:52:33 PM

[up] But what if some of them are under duress?

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190659: May 25th 2017 at 11:53:53 PM

[up] They still voted for Trump and placed the GOP in power.

chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
#190660: May 25th 2017 at 11:54:17 PM

[up][up]Then you have become no better than them. They are still humans. Don't start dehumanizing or you will never stop.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190661: May 25th 2017 at 11:55:42 PM

[up][up][up][up] TBF, most of the votes in this special election were already counted before the assault. It's entirely possible that the election was decided by then. And this was a traditionally red district — it was always going to be a long shot.

edited 25th May '17 11:56:04 PM by M84

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#190662: May 25th 2017 at 11:57:17 PM

[up][up] Damn straight.

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190663: May 26th 2017 at 12:04:36 AM

I'm just tired of having to put up with the Right's bullshit, and having to hear people like fruitpork and Trash Jack despair and create constant fear every fucking day. I believe if the right-wing were to be destroyed, things would go back to how they were before 2016 and Trash Jack, bobwolf, fruitpork and the others would stop being pessimist and fearmongering forever.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#190664: May 26th 2017 at 12:06:27 AM

[up] OK, we get it now, but these may have their reasons why.

And maybe I could stop being The Pollyanna?

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190665: May 26th 2017 at 12:13:46 AM

I don't understand what anyone, Left or Right, has to gain by restricting legal immigration...

edited 26th May '17 12:13:57 AM by FireCrawler2002

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#190666: May 26th 2017 at 12:15:35 AM

"National Integrity and security" they say.

Close-minded and rejection more like.

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190667: May 26th 2017 at 12:17:53 AM

[up] Yet almost everyone in America is a immigrant of some European/African/Asian country (Are they trying to restrict legal immigrants from Europe?) or a descendant of some immigrant from a European/African/Asian country...

edited 26th May '17 12:18:59 AM by FireCrawler2002

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#190668: May 26th 2017 at 12:19:52 AM

[up] Because some of them think that as long they were white, then they're fine because it's "fine to be white."

They think that anything not white means they're "unprepared fools" or something along the lines.

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FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190669: May 26th 2017 at 12:22:33 AM

[up] Considering they act like assholes towards whites from other countries/continents like Canada and Europe despite being the same race and descended from Europeans themselves...

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#190670: May 26th 2017 at 12:24:04 AM

[up] So by that, it means that some of the Americans inherited the arrogance of British colonizers or something. Because by that, they act like they're the masters of everything.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190671: May 26th 2017 at 12:25:15 AM

While populist nativism isn't exactly unique to the USA, it does stink of hypocrisy given the whole "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses..."

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#190672: May 26th 2017 at 12:44:30 AM

Nativism isn't unique to America, but it's as American as apple pie.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190673: May 26th 2017 at 12:45:47 AM

[up] Which is also a European import. Though I'm guessing that's the joke.

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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#190674: May 26th 2017 at 12:55:52 AM

On the Giantforte thing, I'm surprised that Republicans use early voting, given how much they seem to be against it...

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#190675: May 26th 2017 at 4:21:19 AM

Remember we use the scales to measure voter viability for a reason, such as the one to five scale. The fives are the people you never convince in a million years. The ones are the people who are already on your side. You focus on the people in the middle.

[up][up][up]Lehrer is life.

[down]he has a song for every occasion!

edited 26th May '17 4:37:54 AM by megaeliz


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