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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#190551: May 25th 2017 at 4:14:08 PM

[up][up][up] ... It's substantial for Jared if it's true.surprised

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#190552: May 25th 2017 at 4:17:19 PM

I'm going to enjoy Far Cry 5 even more now...

Deplorable nothing, these people are savages.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#190553: May 25th 2017 at 4:25:16 PM

[up] Even if Quist ends up winning?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#190554: May 25th 2017 at 4:27:11 PM

I didn't mean all Montanans. I meant all the ones that kept donating to him (statewide, and nationally).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#190555: May 25th 2017 at 4:29:55 PM

[up] Of course you didn't, but it's very easy to see why people from Montana might take that the wrong way.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#190556: May 25th 2017 at 4:33:48 PM

People donating to Gianforte threw their money away. There's no possible way he could spend it fast enough for it to make any difference.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#190557: May 25th 2017 at 4:36:36 PM

What happens to excess election money in the US anyway?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#190558: May 25th 2017 at 4:47:18 PM

I think it goes into a campaign war chest.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#190560: May 25th 2017 at 5:11:57 PM

[up]They do that with tax money.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#190561: May 25th 2017 at 5:18:29 PM

So, if CNN is to be trusted, it looks like Kushner is indeed a focus of the Russia investigation. And if Kushner is in on anything dirty, then the rest of the clan (including Patriarch Donald) is in on it to. That's how they operate.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#190562: May 25th 2017 at 5:29:53 PM

[up][up]Touchè. [lol]

Do not obey in advance.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#190563: May 25th 2017 at 5:37:40 PM

[up]X6 I belvie that in some states they are allowed to pocket it, though campaign debts probably have to be serviced first (though that can include loans that the candidate themselves gave to their campaign, plus interest obviously).

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#190564: May 25th 2017 at 6:01:18 PM

I wonder what the actual economic effects of National Monuments are

Funny this subject came up, I just heard an NPR story about a monument in Maine, and how there was a bitter contention there about whether it should be considered a National Monument and potentially a National Park. When it did go through, something strange happened, it put the backwoods area on the map, and suddenly people were calling constantly looking to buy places to live in the area and such.

But, because of "Obama BAD!!!" some Maine republicans, including the governor are doing everything in their power to thwart it going through, including refusing to put up road signs marking it, talking shit about the designation in congress, even trash talking the area to say why it shouldn't get such a designation.

All in the hopes that a paper mill that closed down 10 years ago will come back, even though it didn't in the years before the national monument designation.

Link

The Trump administration has vowed to review some of the national monument designations carried out in the Obama years, which could include Maine’s Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument.

Gov. Paul Le Page says the monument, and its potential to become a national park, pose a real threat to Maine’s forest products industry. But some monument supporters in Millinocket, including local businesses, are fighting back.

Dan Corcoran says that a year ago, hours would sometimes pass before the phone would ring at his North Woods Real Estate Co. in Millinocket. But that was before President Barack Obama accepted more than 87,000 acres from Burt’s Bees philanthropist Roxanne Quimby as a national monument to be administered by the U.S. National Park Service.

Now Corcoran says the phone rings more, and he has had to hire three people to keep up with real estate inquiries.

“When the national monument was designated, everything changed — instead of us calling them, they were calling us,” he says. “Within two weeks, we started getting calls from brokers representing national retailers interested in locating in this area.”

But Republicans in Washington, eager to undo some of the Obama legacy, continue to push. And on a trip of the nation’s capital two weeks ago, Le Page testified against the monument before the Federal Lands Subcommittee of the House Natural Resources Committee.

In his remarks, Le Page said that the tourism industry in Maine is largely confined to the south.

“The growth of the state of Maine is on the coast, and between May 31 and Labor Day, we will have 40 million visitors, but they will be to the coast,” he says. “Very few are going to be in the mosquito area.”

For some residents of Millinocket, the governor’s message to Congress fell flat. Monument supporters had been celebrating an uptick in economic activity, something that many business owners say they haven’t seen since the former Great Northern Paper shut its doors nine years ago.

“I was appalled, appalled to hear our governor describe the beautiful Katahdin region as a mosquito area,” says Katahdin Area Chamber of Commerce President Gail Fanjoy. “He had nothing good to say about the Katahdin Woods and Waters.”

Fanjoy says Le Page’s comments about the Millinocket area before a national audience shocked the chamber’s members. And it prompted local business owners to hold a press conference last week to let Maine and the rest of the nation know that many former opponents of the monument are now supporters, and that the once divided the communities in the area are coming together.

“Eight months after the establishment of the monument, the region has come together and is healing — it is ready to move forward to a new and prosperous future,” Fanjoy says. “The efforts of the federal and state government are counterproductive to our progress.”

John Ellis, whose family operates two markets in the region, is one local resident whose position on the monument has evolved. Ellis’ family lost its camp when Quimby purchased the land that would ultimately be given to the National Park Service.

He says he understands anyone in the area who had to forfeit a place they loved had a right to be bitter about the monument. But Ellis says, before he died, his late father urged his sons to resist ill feelings.

“I remember it distinctly, he said, ‘Boys it’s time to move on, it’s time move forward and embrace this opportunity for our community and go forward, we need to move beyond the past,’” he says.

Ellis and Corcoran acknowledge that there is still some entrenched opposition to the monument proposal that is now one week into a 60-day written comment period. They see it as an impediment to the future return of industry, and to traditional recreational uses such as hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. But opponents in Millinocket seem to be keeping a low profile as the new federal review of the Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument gets underway.

One man, who posted a “No Park” sign on his lawn, declined to talk about his position. Millinocket native Robert Frost, who hangs a pro-monument banner on his front porch, says opponents tend to keep to themselves.

“It’s a nit-pick group, a bunch of people who get together over coffee at their house or a restaurant and they’ll talk about it,” he says. “This community here, it’s hard to change. And they still think that in the back of their minds, that that mill is going to come back — and it’s not.”

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#190565: May 25th 2017 at 6:05:57 PM

The US threatening to go isolationist, Russia becoming more aggressive, large terrorist group in the Middle East holding a large amount of territory, China becoming even more militarized and expanding their reach and the European Union going through some troubles as a member leaves.

We're just a few details and a world war away from Commandand Conquer: Rise Of The Reds

Inter arma enim silent leges
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#190567: May 25th 2017 at 6:26:32 PM

[up]Well, that would have been just fine and dandy during World War II. As is, all you're doing is making people wonder if you know what decade it is. (Which in all honestly is probably a very valid point.tongue)

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190568: May 25th 2017 at 6:37:47 PM

[up][up][up] I wish Canada could kick America's ass and make them calm down...

edited 25th May '17 6:38:02 PM by FireCrawler2002

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#190569: May 25th 2017 at 6:41:49 PM

[up]Honestly, at this point, I'd welcome it. Hell, we probably deserve it. Come on Canada, rip us a new one. Give us a good kick in the tushi.tongue

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190570: May 25th 2017 at 6:45:24 PM

[up][up][up] Not to mention most Americans are descended from Germans, including Trump himself, whose grandpa was a German who moved to the US. So he is basically calling himself and most of the US very bad.

edited 25th May '17 6:46:09 PM by FireCrawler2002

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#190571: May 25th 2017 at 6:48:13 PM

[up]To be fair, that's actually somewhat accurate at this point.tongue

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#190572: May 25th 2017 at 6:50:01 PM

I mean descended from [insert nationality] and are [insert nationality] are not the same thing. And it's not most, either.

edited 25th May '17 6:50:24 PM by LSBK

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#190573: May 25th 2017 at 6:50:01 PM

I mean descended from [insert nationality] and are [insert nationality] are not the same thing. And it's not most, either.

edited 25th May '17 6:50:24 PM by LSBK

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#190574: May 25th 2017 at 6:50:58 PM

Preliminary analysis looks good for Quist; pollsters said he did better among early voters than expected, and people voting on election day are far more likely to be swayed by the recent scandal of his.

FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#190575: May 25th 2017 at 6:53:46 PM

[up][up] Hey, you just revealed that you and LSBK are the same user...


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