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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#190001: May 20th 2017 at 4:28:36 PM

Unsurpringly, r/the_donald is back after the mods made it private for 12 hours. Unsurprisingly the subreddits community flooded other political subreddits bitching about it until then. Which is one of the reasons the reddit admins don't just ban them outright.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#190002: May 20th 2017 at 4:31:19 PM

[up]Well, at least it was fun to see all the salty Trump supporters whining in other subs and everybody else laughing at them.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#190003: May 20th 2017 at 4:32:58 PM

I take it they received less than warm and serious welcomes?

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#190004: May 20th 2017 at 4:34:33 PM

[up]x6 Sorry you had to run into that.

I am morbidly curious though, even though I know better.

edited 20th May '17 4:39:03 PM by megaeliz

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#190005: May 20th 2017 at 4:43:02 PM

[up][up]They tried to migrated to Voat (Reddit but Nazi-er), got insulted to hell and back, other subs just laughed at them included non-political ones, like a Star Wars original trilogy one and another about Sponge Bob Square Pants. They came back a few hours ago, because their tantrum didn't work.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#190006: May 20th 2017 at 4:44:03 PM

So even other white supremacists don't like them. I can't help but find that hilarious.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#190007: May 20th 2017 at 4:52:07 PM

Thanks, guys. I honestly didn't expect more than one or two people to jump at the call. To see five do so is... well, it reinforces my faith in part of the human race.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#190008: May 20th 2017 at 5:54:22 PM

[up]You can PM me, though I don't know if I will be of any help.

Do not obey in advance.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#190009: May 20th 2017 at 6:32:32 PM

Nah, I feel better now. But thanks for the offer.

For the record, when I said "five", I meant "two who posted their responses in this thread, and three who directly PM'd me instead of leaving a post here".

edited 20th May '17 6:32:43 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#190010: May 20th 2017 at 7:37:07 PM

Does anyone know anything more about this story?

Black man will spend six years in Georgia prison despite jury finding him 'not guilty'

A black man who was found not guilty of armed robbery will still serve up to seven years behind bars after a judge ruled he had breached the rules of his probation sentence for another crime.

Ramad Chatman handed himself in to police when he found out he was a suspect for an armed robbery at a convenience store in his hometown of Georgia in July 2014.

"He turned himself in because he knew he was not guilty," his grandmother Janice Chatman told US news channel 11Alive.

The 24-year-old was already was serving a five year probation term (a court order served outside prison through fines and community service) for his first ever offence, breaking and entering an apartment to steal a television worth $120 (£92) in 2012.

Basically, there's nothing linking him to the armed robbery, no evidence of any kind, he voluntarily turned himself in as soon as he heard the police were looking for him, and tried an Alford plea because he expected to be taken down for a crime he didn't commit. Except the jury found him innocent.

The judge has decided to disagree with the jury's verdict and keep him imprisoned, citing a parole violation from his original offence.

It later emerged that ahead of the trial Chapman tried to enter an Alford plea on the charge of aggravated assault in exchange for the armed robbery charges being dropped.

An Alford plea means the defendant enters a guilty plea, but maintains his innocence. It is often used when a defendant feels like despite his innocence, he will lose at trial.

The judge refused to accept the deal, so the case was heard before a jury - who ruled he was innocent of the crime.

Presiding Judge John Niedrach, disagreed with their verdict however.

So despite the fact police never recovered the weapon, stolen money, or any other evidence connecting him to the robbery, he declined to release Mr Chatman, who remains in prison for violating the terms of his first probation order.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#190011: May 20th 2017 at 7:42:02 PM

My first thought is to wonder what the judge is getting out of it/is he bought off by a private prison.

Either that or just simple racism or just "tough on crime" BS.

edited 20th May '17 7:42:30 PM by LSBK

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#190012: May 20th 2017 at 7:48:28 PM

[up] You say that as if all of those horrible things are mutually exclusive.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#190013: May 20th 2017 at 7:50:20 PM

I seriously hope there some way to appeal that, because it's straight-up nonsense.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#190014: May 20th 2017 at 7:59:14 PM

Well, this isn't the first time I've heard of a judge overriding the jury, for whatever reason. Which tells me that maybe we should take a look at how and why a judge can do that, and if we should continue allowing such actions.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#190015: May 20th 2017 at 8:08:16 PM

A judge cannot simply overturn a jury verdict, but the article doesn't mention what the supposed parole violation was. Without more information on the case, it's sort of impossible to discuss.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#190016: May 20th 2017 at 8:30:13 PM

Atlanta news link

Says the judge claimed he believed the witness despite the Jury's verdict and that the witness's claim that he had a gun was valid. Probation hearing was before the jury trial. Sounds like the judge using a loophole to get the defendant imprisoned, as the testimony over the gun is being used separately from the robbery trial (ie, judge saying the trial only declared him not guilty of robbery, not possession, despite the only evidence in this case being an unreliable witness).

edited 20th May '17 8:32:16 PM by carbon-mantis

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#190017: May 20th 2017 at 8:46:32 PM

Students at Notra Dame plan to walk out at Pence's commencement speech: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334247-students-to-stage-walkout-of-pence-speech?

Good for them.

edited 20th May '17 8:48:49 PM by megaeliz

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#190018: May 20th 2017 at 10:16:48 PM

Man, wonder if NYT and Wa Po have something up their sleeve for monday?

New Survey coming this weekend!
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#190019: May 21st 2017 at 6:09:29 AM

The poorest sections of NC to lose food stamp access.

The new proposed cut is crafted with love by our dear GOP. Citing the idea that people are somehow abusing them for personal gain, one local GOP leader says "We all know food stamps are abused by many to avoid personal accountability. They need to be taught restraint."

Coupled with a counter-intuitive requirement that you must be employed in NC to receive food stamps if you're single and removal of free lunch programs for children, this is gonna hurt a hell of a lot of poor people

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#190020: May 21st 2017 at 6:14:30 AM

[up] It's as if the Republicans of North Carolina know they're going to suffer severely in 2018, and want to do as much damage before they're booted into being a minority, or worse, extinct.

Hopefully, the State Senate and Governor vote to keep this nonsense at bey.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190021: May 21st 2017 at 6:25:30 AM

[up] Either that, or they're trying to Kill the Poor via starvation since poor people tend to vote for the Democratic Party.

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#190022: May 21st 2017 at 6:49:03 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#190023: May 21st 2017 at 6:52:59 AM

[up]I know he feels genuine about it, but he shouldn't feel sorry. Time to stop treating the GOP with kid gloves.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#190024: May 21st 2017 at 6:54:42 AM

Cooper seems like a pretty professional guy for the most part, so hearing him say something like that speaks volumes. A real life O.O.C. Is Serious Business moment.

Disgusted, but not surprised
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#190025: May 21st 2017 at 7:05:30 AM

I mean, he's probably not wrong, but...

i'm tired, my friend

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