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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#189901: May 19th 2017 at 5:05:33 PM

In that list, there are less than 10 compelling figures and of those some have said they don't want to run, are too old , not marketable or too new.

Who would you say are the best "viable" candidates?

edited 19th May '17 5:10:01 PM by Draghinazzo

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#189902: May 19th 2017 at 5:06:21 PM

[up]x3 Don't forget those holding key seats in rednote  states.
Although, the articles coming out about their (and particularly Bullock's) election strategies make me think that's exactly where we'll find the type suited for addressing the ongoing constitutional crises...

edited 19th May '17 5:10:06 PM by CenturyEye

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#189903: May 19th 2017 at 5:08:05 PM

Let's see, of those listed, I'd be interested in voting for:

  • Biden
  • Warren
  • Harris
  • Murphy
  • Klobuchar
  • Booker
  • Gillibrand
  • Castro
  • Franken
  • Brown (either Sherrod or Jerry)
  • Ellison
  • Duckworth

I wouldn't be that interested in voting for Sanders, but he's obviously a major contender.

There's some other individuals like Garcetti, who probably have a future, but seem too low level right now.

Of the "celebrity" choices, I'd be most interested in the Rock or Michelle Obama. Zuckerberg's political ambitions should be stopped as soon as possible.

Edit- I remember previously having good vibes toward Deval Patrick but struck him off after seeing he's currently working for Bain Capital. No offense meant to him, but that seems like an instant disqualifier.

Edit 2- Should probably remove Gillibrand for her rather awful past anti-immigrant positions but I give her the benefit of the doubt that her change in opinions is sincere and maybe she could spin it as having seen the light.

edited 19th May '17 5:20:15 PM by Hodor2

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#189904: May 19th 2017 at 5:12:24 PM

[up]If Jerry Brown runs I'd like him to use the song California Über Alles in his campaign (yes, I know it criticizes him, but still, just Quote Mine the lyrics or say it's "ironic").

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#189905: May 19th 2017 at 5:24:56 PM

I'm most interested in Franken but I'd vote for just about any Dem that's not Gabbard.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#189906: May 19th 2017 at 5:31:06 PM

I really like Franken, although he's probably best where he is right now. He's my current hope for "first Jewish President".

Yeah, I deliberately left her off, although if it was a choice between her and Trump, I'd vote for her. I'd certainly vote for Sanders with 100X more enthusiasm than I would for Gabbard.

Edit- For what it's worth, I'd put Cuomo in almost the same category as Gabbard, just at the other ideological end of the Democratic Party.

edited 19th May '17 5:38:51 PM by Hodor2

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#189907: May 19th 2017 at 5:44:00 PM

Duckworth would be interesting, if only because she's basically impossible to attack without looking really bad. She's an injured veteran who came back after a horrible, impossible to ignore injury and then went on to enter politics and goes way out of her way to engage with her constituents.

She might even be able to use the fact that one of the most effective presidents the US ever had (FDR) was disabled by polio to shut down any attempts to make her look ineffectual.

edited 19th May '17 5:45:25 PM by Zendervai

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#189908: May 19th 2017 at 5:46:26 PM

I could never take Al Franken seriously as a presidential candidate, because I know him best as a comedian who appeared regularly on Saturday Night Live. He also did a spot-on impression of Paul Simon (the politician, not the musician), and being able to mimic a guy who's more boring than Al Gore isn't exactly a point in his favor.

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#189909: May 19th 2017 at 5:48:04 PM

The interesting thing about Franken as a candidate is that according to this 538 article he is one of the people furthest along the steps usually taken when somebody is preparing to announce a presidential campaign. He's tied with Sanders and O'Malley for second (having done 3/7 steps), with Biden as a distant first (5/7, and since the article was written, Biden fulfilled a 6th step on that path).

edited 19th May '17 5:49:37 PM by IFwanderer

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#189910: May 19th 2017 at 5:48:59 PM

I hope Dems are looking forward to having Sanders at the front next time.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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#189911: May 19th 2017 at 5:54:58 PM

If Jerry Brown runs I'd like him to use the song California Über Alles in his campaign (yes, I know it criticizes him, but still, just Quote Mine the lyrics or say it's "ironic").

One of my favorite songs (and I like to take it more of a parody of Republican fear of California). To be fair, the band has taken back their criticism of Jerry Brown saying he wasn't so bad after all and wrote a companion song afterwards about Reagan although they're really into bashing Californiana since they repeat the California Uber Alles and link Reagan to us Californians.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#189912: May 19th 2017 at 5:56:58 PM

Also come on. Even Garrosh was better than Trump. At least Garrosh had something he wanted to do and kinda did it (Even if it was stupidly evil from beginning to end). Everything Trump attempts is a massive failure. He is more like Gallywix in that everything he does is asshattery but he remains rich after that.

edited 19th May '17 5:57:22 PM by Aszur

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#189913: May 19th 2017 at 6:00:13 PM

Sandars is 75. He'll be almost 80 in 2020. Can we not elect ppl who are about to keel over (or go into dementia)...

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#189914: May 19th 2017 at 6:00:31 PM

[up][up][up][up]Well, there is a trend in US politics of the person who was second in a campaign's primaries being the next front-runner for the party (see: Reagan to Ford, Bush I to Reagan, McCain to Bush II, Hillary to Obama, Romney to McCain*)

[up][up][up]They are from California (and I believe Jello Biafra has run for mayor of San Fransisco).

Damn Ninjas[nja].

*In popular vote, even tough Huckabee won more delegates.

edited 19th May '17 6:01:27 PM by IFwanderer

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A nice butterfly
#189915: May 19th 2017 at 6:00:45 PM

Too late for not having a president with dementia, isn't it.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#189916: May 19th 2017 at 6:01:29 PM

@wanderer Here's the song.

And the lyrics which sound Trumpian:

I am Emperor Ronald Reagan

Born again with fascist cravings

Still, you make me president

Human rights will soon go 'way

I am now your Shah today

Now I command all of you

Now your gonna pray in school

I'll make sure they're christian too

California Uber Alles

Uber Alles California

Ku Klux Klan will control you

Still you think it's natural

Nigger knockin for the master race

Still you wear a happy face

California Uber Alles

Uber Alles California

Welcome to 1984

Are you ready for the Third World War?!?

You too will meet the secret police

They'll draft you and they'll jail your niece

You'll go quietly to boot camp

They'll shoot you dead, make you a man

Don't worry, it's for a cause

Feeding global corporations' claws

Die on a brand new poison gas

El Salvador or Afghanistan

Making money for President Reagan

And all the friends of President Reagan

California Uber Alles

Uber Alles California

edited 19th May '17 6:06:33 PM by MadSkillz

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#189917: May 19th 2017 at 6:01:39 PM

[up][up]Wouldn't you say we should avoid that if possible.

edited 19th May '17 6:01:55 PM by nightwyrm_zero

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#189918: May 19th 2017 at 6:06:15 PM

Every single election there's concerns about the candidate's health. Is Mc Cain's cheek going to explode with cancer? Is Obama's smoking going to kill him? Is Hillary's fainting a liability?

The U.S has had a poliomyelitic president. Are health concerns an actual thing or are they just seriously silly excuses?

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#189919: May 19th 2017 at 6:06:35 PM

[up][up][up]I know the song. And they did one for Schwarzenegger too.

I'm kind of hoping they do a Trump version. Following the series (California Über Alles, We've Got a Bigger Problem Now, Kali-fornia Über Alles 21st Century) it could be called "We've Got a Yuge Problem Now".

edited 19th May '17 6:12:19 PM by IFwanderer

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#189920: May 19th 2017 at 6:26:09 PM

[up][up]Polio doesn't impair a person's mental faculties. Dementia does and the risks increase a lot with age. Trump seems to have Dementia and look what he's like. Even Franken is pushing it as he'll be almost 70 in 2020. A candidate in their 80s should be rejected on principal in my opinion.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#189921: May 19th 2017 at 6:41:12 PM

Yeah old people are useless let's dump them all in the nursing home and be done with them already

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#189922: May 19th 2017 at 6:47:04 PM

[up]Like Trump? Because I'd be down with that.

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#189923: May 19th 2017 at 6:48:10 PM

Montana Democrat Rob Quist pulls Sander's like Fundraising for House bid: $5 Million in total, but most of the 200,000 donations are less then $25. By comparison, his Republican Challenger, Greg Gianforte, raised $2 Million from a Super PAC and loaned himself $1 Million.

Combined with his waffling on the AHCA this week, and (apparently) his internal polling showing him down, I think Quist might be the first Democrat to outright win a 2017 Special Election, which would be a good thing.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#189924: May 19th 2017 at 6:59:42 PM

@wanderer It would be super easy to do.

I am God-Emperor Donald Trump

Business man in a fascist slump.

Still, you losers made me president

Human rights will soon go away

I am now your Tsar today

Now I command all of you

You're gonna build me that Wall

And watch as our economy falls

Donald Trump Uber Alles

Uber Alles Trump

Neo-Nazis will control you

Still you think it's natural

All the poor lose welfare

Only the rich get healthcare

Republicans knockin for the master race

Still you wear a happy face

Donald Trump Uber Alles

Uber Alles Trump

Welcome to 2024

Are you ready for the Third World War?!?

You too will meet the secret police

They'll draft you and deport your brown niece

When they take you to boot camp

They'll shoot you dead, make you a man

Don't worry, it's for a cause

Feeding global corporations' claws

Die on our cheap poison gas

Syria or Afghanistan

Making money for President Trump

And all the friends of President Trump

Donald Trump Uber Alles

Uber Alles Trump

Corporations will control you

Nobody can stop us now

Spray tans for the master race

So you all can have my face.

Close your eyes. Can’t happen here.

Mitch Mc Connell has always been here.

Third Reich won’t come back you say?

Not if Fox News has their way.

Can I grab you by the pussy today?

Donald Trump Uber Alles

Uber Alles Trump

Now it's just like 1984

Knock-knock at your bedroom door.

It’s the homeland security police.

You’re a terrorist and so is your niece!

Drag you secretly to a gulag

Where we put all our minorities

Don’t you worry it’s for a cause:

Feeding you to the alt-right's claws

Donald Trump Uber Alles

Uber Alles Trump

edited 19th May '17 7:06:33 PM by MadSkillz


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