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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#189751: May 18th 2017 at 7:08:03 PM

Ok, here's a question; in the event that this investigation does find that Trump did something illegal/wrong, what happens? Would it be impossible to take him to court, even if the GOP doesn't want to? Or would, at that point, the GOP be perceived as obligated to do something?

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#189752: May 18th 2017 at 7:19:02 PM

"Pretty sure this election was Peggy Carter vs Modok, and Modok won. "

why people said that? I mean steven bannon didnt run from president as far I knowtongue

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#189753: May 18th 2017 at 7:28:06 PM

[up][up] He'd have to stop being President first, whether through successful impeachment, resigning, or serving out his term (or terms). Once that's taken care of, then he can be tried in court for his crimes.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#189754: May 18th 2017 at 7:31:07 PM

[up][up][up]Yes, though only in a few specific instances-most everyone's hands are tied through impeachment clauses, but there are a couple ways. There are a few 'imminent threat' clauses intelligence agencies can use to act immediately to detain a suspect and remove them from the chain of command. They could also use one of the sedition acts, which have a much lower bar than treason to remove them from office if they have evidence of foreign collusion. However, the catch is that without catching them red-handed, whatever the agencies invoke will land them in front of the SCOTUS to explain in detail their methods and reasoning, and possibly wind up in the line of fire themselves if they rush it.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#189755: May 18th 2017 at 7:39:13 PM

So what happens if the House does not vote for the AHCA this time?

Do not obey in advance.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#189756: May 18th 2017 at 7:42:12 PM

[up] It'd die, again, and they're back to the drawing board. Although it's not a 100% guarantee that they have to vote for the AHCA again.

And Trump continually saying "Obamacare is dead! Obamacare is dead!" isn't going to be a good thing for the Healthcare Industry...

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#189757: May 18th 2017 at 7:47:31 PM

And Trump continually saying "Obamacare is dead! Obamacare is dead!" isn't going to be a good thing for the Healthcare Industry...

Why? (I know very little about the health care industry, except that they actually like the ACA because it allowed more people to be insured)

These forums need a damned quote button so badly.

edited 18th May '17 7:48:58 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#189758: May 18th 2017 at 7:48:54 PM

Absolutely not a good thing re: Dwayne Johnson running. Honestly, I think Trump's rape of American civic institutions should scotch the idea that a political neophyte makes a good president. I'd be hesitant to support anyone who hasn't held at least one other elected office before.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#189759: May 18th 2017 at 7:53:40 PM

Maybe he could run as a 3rd party ticket, in order to absolutely torpedo the GOP and offer a moderate option to conservatives?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#189760: May 18th 2017 at 7:53:47 PM

If it didn't require a constitutional amendment I'd think Trump should be ample proof that we need to legally mandate that the president holds a lesser office before they're eligible.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#189761: May 18th 2017 at 7:59:30 PM

[up][up] He'd need to get large amounts of support in a Republican run before even considering it, or else he becomes a more well known Even McMullins or a Kanye West, who would no doubt get votes, but would not be an upset, and would not take enough supporters away from the mainstream Republican Party.

[up][up][up] To be honest, I only want Dwayne Johnson to get the Nomination so that he takes it away from Trump, but the odds of Trump not getting the Nomination are little to none. Trump's either impeached and can't get the Republican Nomination, or he's gonna get renominated.

[up][up][up][up] Because Insurers are allowed to leave Obamacare, and if all of the Insurers leave Obamacare, no one can get insured through Obamacare, unless they're on Welfare. Already, a number of Insurers have left because of a combination of fear of Obamacare being killed and rising insurance premiums. Trump constantly saying "Obamacare is dead" will get more Insurers to leave it, and less people will be able to get insurance through Obamacare...

edited 18th May '17 8:16:52 PM by DingoWalley1

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#189762: May 18th 2017 at 8:15:39 PM

The representative of Salem, Massachusetts has this to say about "the greatest political witch hunt in history". [lol]

Re: The fanfic version of reality: I picture the writer of this fic being a teen edgelord.

edited 18th May '17 8:53:22 PM by BearyScary

Do not obey in advance.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#189763: May 18th 2017 at 9:01:21 PM

If the Republicans want to elect a celebrity, they should do the decent thing and amend the Constitution to allow Ahnold to run. Except that he would be the definition of a RINO anywhere except CA, of course. He's a Republican who I can honestly say I like, but...

SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#189764: May 18th 2017 at 11:25:30 PM

Given that several sources of fictional media already predicted Trump gaining the Presidency, we may as well allow Schwarzenegger to get a chance in the Oval Office. tongue

Besides, while he's ultimately a Republican, he's of the Californian breed, which generally don't care for the Tea Party very much and have more than a few common grounds with the Democrats.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#189765: May 18th 2017 at 11:34:23 PM

The thing about Schwarzenegger is that yes, he's a Republican, but he — unlike a lot of the Republicans running things these days — he's not a complete POS who puts ideology above reality. Nor does he seem the type to put Party over Country.

edited 18th May '17 11:34:47 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#189766: May 18th 2017 at 11:51:45 PM

Which, of course, means that he'd never survive the primary.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#189767: May 19th 2017 at 1:03:38 AM

As an ex- Republican from California, he's not that popular anymore. "Too progressive to be Republican and too conservative to be a Democrat" sums up his reputation. In wake of 2017, view of him has softened among some Democrat voters but many Republican voters have not forgiven him.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#189768: May 19th 2017 at 1:47:33 AM

In fact he's probably too conservative to be a Republican too, since Republicans tend to actually be reactionaries...

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
WhatArtThee Since: Oct, 2015
#189769: May 19th 2017 at 6:42:38 AM

Personally, i'm not sure if I WANT Trump to be impeached, I feel Pence would be a lot worse. Trump's bad, sure, but he's also stupid and incompetent and most of the GOP opposes him, which has led to several orders shut down. Pence has GOP support, and I think would be more competent, which means more bad laws will be pushed through.

edited 19th May '17 6:42:52 AM by WhatArtThee

Just another day in the life of Jimmy Nutrin
Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#189770: May 19th 2017 at 6:46:06 AM

I think we've reached a point where it's safe to say that anything Pence does if he were put as President wouldn't reach the level of unpredictable madness as the Trump presidency right now

Besides, if that were the case, they'd be too busy trying to begin patching up the mess to do anything meaningful in the long run

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#189771: May 19th 2017 at 6:47:11 AM

[up][up]You know that the ACLU and the majority of civies will have none of it and be stalled as well from them.

edited 19th May '17 6:47:27 AM by Luigisan98

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
WhatArtThee Since: Oct, 2015
#189772: May 19th 2017 at 7:00:18 AM

Also, Pence's stances are pretty much the same as Trump's, and in some ways (abortion and LGBT rights) worse. I do feel that even though the Trump presidency's had a lot of controversy Pence's would be even worse, given that coupled with GOP support and competence.

Just another day in the life of Jimmy Nutrin
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#189773: May 19th 2017 at 7:07:41 AM

Pence is more competent than Trump and not as crazy on foreign policy. That alone makes him less dangerous.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#189774: May 19th 2017 at 7:13:56 AM

[up][up] You really think that leaving an incompetent oaf who has no understanding or respect for the office of the Presidency in the Oval Office is a good idea? It's not.

Trump is an incompetent, untrustworthy, short-sighted, malicious moron who gives no fucks for anyone but himself. Yes, he's less likely to get stuff done...but he's also too damn stubborn and desperate for a "win" to ever stop trying. He will keep trying to kill the ACA, he will keep trying to build his damn wall, he will keep trying to ban Muslims and boot out undocumented immigrants...

As for Pence's awful agenda...you really think he won't be able to get it through anyway as VP? Trump already tried to sign a "religious freedom" EO. Yes, it was badly written enough to fail. But the next one might not. And there will be a next one. And Trump will sign it because he doesn't care one way or another about the LGBTQ community.

Trump has already done significant damage via putting Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. To say nothing of all of the other judges he will put in the circuit.

Yes, Pence will be awful. But it's ludicrous to think that leaving Trump in office one second longer than necessary is the better option.

[up] Yeah, Pence is less likely to start WWIII.

edited 19th May '17 7:14:25 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#189775: May 19th 2017 at 7:25:52 AM

FBI warned a GOP Congressman that the Russians was trying to recruit him

Look at the KGB Party standing up for American values

edited 19th May '17 7:26:18 AM by NoName999


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