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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#189651: May 18th 2017 at 6:12:11 AM

Thing is, we're now going to have to suffer Trump using this as an excuse to pretend to be a decent human being, and the media will eat it up again.

See: Phyllis Schafly.

edited 18th May '17 6:12:38 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#189652: May 18th 2017 at 6:14:41 AM

Fuck it, I'm glad that old toad is dead. The world has suffered because of his life's work.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#189653: May 18th 2017 at 6:44:39 AM

THIS IS THE SINGLE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF A POLITICIAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY!! #PresidentSupervillain
https://t.co/In3V09SVEB

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#189654: May 18th 2017 at 6:50:11 AM

I guess Hillary Clinton doesn't exist then. Or Barack Obama. Remember them? You despised them and make a huge deal out of the unsubstantiated wrongdoings they supposedly did.

There's also the insanity that went on during the Mc Carthy era, and what about all those people who had to hide their orientation because it would be a security risk because they were forced to hide it?

It's also not a witch hunt when you flat out admit to the wrongdoing in question. Obstruction of Justice anyone?

Boston Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#189655: May 18th 2017 at 6:55:38 AM

So, No. 45 admits he's a witch, then?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#189656: May 18th 2017 at 6:56:02 AM

Or just the politicians who were straight up murdered.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#189658: May 18th 2017 at 7:17:47 AM

Like a well-oiled machine, Wikileaks is trying to tear down Mueller.

Someone, btw, put together a timeline on the Flynn matter:

  • December 2015: Flynn attends Russia Today dinner. He is seated next to Putin. Receives $33k for his appearance
  • April 2016: Flynn has DIA security clearance renewed. He does not disclose any payments from Russia
  • July 2016: FBI begins to investigate any ties between Trump campaign and Russia
  • August 2016: Flynn begins lobbying for Turkey. Ultimately receives $530k over course of his work
  • November 8th: Flynn writes Op-ed advocating better relations with Turkey
  • November 8th: Donald Trump wins election
  • November 10th: In first meeting between Trump and Obama, Obama raises concern over Flynn
  • November 8-17th: At some point in November, Flynn informs transition team of intent to register as foreign agent
  • November 17th: Flynn is named for National Security Adviser.
  • November 18th: Elijah Cumming sends letter to VP-elect Pence, including notification of Flynn lobbying company's work with Turkey
  • November 30: The Justice Department sends a letter to Flynn notifying him they were scrutinizing his lobbying work.
  • December 2016: Michael Flynn has undisclosed conversation with Sergei Kislyak, the Russian Ambassador to the United States. Around the time Obama put new sanctions on Russia
  • January 4th: Flynn informs transition team he was under investigation for Turkey lobbying
  • January ~10th: Flynn reportedly delays ISIS attack plan that Turkey objected to.
  • January 15th: Pence says Flynn phone-call with Kislyak in December was unrelated to sanctions
  • January 18th: Flynn meets for 'working breakfast' with Turkish Minister of Foreign Affairs
  • January 20th: Donald Trump’s inauguration
  • January 24th: Flynn has interview with FBI
  • January 26th: Sally Yates informs the WH that reports about Flynn’s conversations were untrue and Flynn was susceptible to compromise.
  • January 27th: Donald Trump has dinner with Comey. Trump asks him for loyalty.
  • January 30th: Sally Yates is fired. Administration & Trump cite refusal to defend travel ban
  • February 9th: Washington Post reports that Flynn discussed sanctions
  • February 13th: Washington Post reports that Yates warned WH
  • February 13th: Flynn resigns
  • February 14th: Trump asks Comey to end Flynn probe. “I hope you can let this go”
  • March 9th: Flynn registers as foreign agent under FARA
  • March 9th: Pence says story that Flynn registering earlier in day as foreign agent is first he heard of it. Calls it affirmation of Flynn resignation
  • March 10th: Story breaks that Flynn had informed transition team of intent to register as foreign agent before inauguration
  • March 20th: Comey discloses Trump-Russia investigation by FBI. Rebuts Trump claims of Obama ‘wiretapp’
  • March 31st: Flynn requests immunity. Request rejected next day
  • May 3rd: Comey testifies to Senate about his decisions in Email investigation
  • May 8th: Sally Yates testifies that Flynn was at risk for blackmail and that she had warned the WH, confirming media reports
  • May 8th: Trump asks Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General to write justifications for firing Comey
  • May 9th: Trump fires Comey. WH claims that it was because of handling of Hillary Clinton email investigation
  • May 11th: Senate intelligence committee subpoenas Michael Flynn for documents
  • May 16th: Trump has meeting with Erdogan in White House

edited 18th May '17 7:19:27 AM by Lightysnake

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#189659: May 18th 2017 at 7:30:28 AM

[up][up][up]Abraham Lincoln, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, et al.:

"At least we weren't treated as badly as Trump"

edited 18th May '17 7:31:24 AM by TheAirman

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#189660: May 18th 2017 at 7:37:13 AM

If this was a comedy you'd cut to Charles Sumner being violently beaten on the floors of congress by Preston Brooks before stating solemnly "He's right, you know!"

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#189663: May 18th 2017 at 8:06:31 AM

They have coasted for years on a mix of "free speech" and "no one actually takes them seriously" but before the election the worst they got was fake celebrity gossip (sometimes of political figures but not so nasty as it's been lately)

Actually, The National Enquirer and The Globe have been peddling right-wing trash for years. They both got aboard the anti-Obama conspiracy theory train in 2008 and never climbed off. They claimed he was secretly gay, they claimed Michelle was really a man, they claimed that he was a war criminal and wasn't going to leave office when voted out (before 2012) or when his term expired (after 2012). And they loved claiming he was a secret member of the Muslim Brotherhood, with all that entails.

Things have gotten worse since Trump through his hat in the ring, certainly. Where previously they would launch the occasional attack on a Republican candidate, they're now entirely dedicated to propping up the Trump administration, and have completed their transition into a Pravda knockoff.

Regarding libel laws, The Globe at least, could be sued for its coverage of Hillary Clinton since the election. Since their stories claim that her trial is currently wrapping up and that she is being refused a plea deal by Trump, and she is obviously not on trial, a libel case would be relatively easy to make—and will only become easier to make once they run the inevitable story saying she is now in prison. It would require Clinton herself to sue them though, and they've got enough lawyers to tie the case up forever.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#189664: May 18th 2017 at 8:26:44 AM

@ The Flynn Timeline: I guess WaPo's taking its new motto very seriously...

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#189665: May 18th 2017 at 8:28:03 AM

Michael Flynn received USD500,000 from Turkey to pull strings in their favor. That is, by halting a US-led move on Raqqa.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#189666: May 18th 2017 at 8:38:45 AM

And its official, NAFTA will be reopened.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/nafta-renegotiation-congress-1.4121341

Hey Mexico, better start drawing up your counter protections now, like we are. Just in case we need to pull Taking You with Me on the US economy.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#189667: May 18th 2017 at 8:43:16 AM

About NAFTA, Paul Krugman did write a column about it a while ago. It's mostly the red states that take advantage from it

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#189668: May 18th 2017 at 8:50:35 AM

[up][up]Really...? It is Trump after all. (Remember how was going to stick it to China?) Barring a reversion to WTO rules, you'll both probably walk away owning Yellowstone and the Gulf oil platforms respectively and probably a couple of treaty ports and see the launching of the careers of whoever the ambassadors are. tongue

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#189669: May 18th 2017 at 8:54:01 AM

[up][up]That's from three days ago. Was this an expected turn of events?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#189671: May 18th 2017 at 8:59:10 AM

Are you allowed to plead the 5th on a Congressional subpoena? I know you can do that during actual testimony, but I'm not sure about being ordered to produce documents and the like.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#189672: May 18th 2017 at 9:04:18 AM

Not giving self-incriminating testimony is one thing, but state's evidence is state's evidence, and if they demand documents, you are obligated to produce them.

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#189674: May 18th 2017 at 9:08:00 AM

He can stonewall them for a long time, though. They'd have to send the matter to federal courts to force compliance from him, and that isn't a quick process.


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