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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#189601: May 17th 2017 at 5:25:14 PM

So, in latest "...the fuck is going on?!" news, we have stirrings down in Virginia that point to US Marshals getting ready to make arrests, as 4 of the 11 judges have had their dockets for tomorrow cleared, 3 of which have been done indefinitely, according to political insider Claude Taylor.

“Shortly after 12pm in the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) in a closed and secure courtroom colloquially known as a SKIF, a hearing was held. The Government argued before a 3 judge panel for a MOE (Marshall Order of Execution). The MOE was granted. A revised tactical and logistical plan was approved for Multiple Jurisdictions by the Court. This is a highly detailed plan using hundreds of United States Marshal Service targeting an unknown number of Trump associates. The operation commenced shortly after the Court’s approved of the MOE at about 2pm. The MOE filing and number will remain under seal until the indictments are unsealed by the Court.”

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#189602: May 17th 2017 at 5:30:54 PM

[up] If that's true, Trump is going to be in a world of hurt tomorrow; not because he's going to Jail (yet), but because several of his allies are going to be arrested, and that will reflect badly on Trump.

I don't know what "Docket Clearing" for Justices entails, though.

edited 17th May '17 5:31:28 PM by DingoWalley1

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#189603: May 17th 2017 at 5:34:38 PM

From the article:

it’s highly unusual for that many judges to have their schedules simultaneously clear. It suggests that the court is expecting an imminent influx of high priority cases.
I know nothing about the Palmer Report as a source though.

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#189604: May 17th 2017 at 5:36:05 PM

It means that they will not hear any other cases.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#189605: May 17th 2017 at 5:37:47 PM

[up][up]+[up] Then this is serious, if it's true. And the if is very important...

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#189606: May 17th 2017 at 5:38:44 PM

The docket is the list of court cases a justice will preside over in a day. If they're clearing the dockets, that means that they're expecting something very big that will take up their time, that's worth throwing a bunch of scheduled court dates into chaos.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#189607: May 17th 2017 at 5:57:21 PM

Trump Voters Back Him Amid Scandal Essentially they're "sick and tired" of the media or the stories are a scheme to subvert the president or the media "don't want to see America do well." Granted it is a two minute clip of people in one town (Nashville, TN),, so its probably more useful for a look at their specific reasonings than a cross-section of trump voters.

Sudan's Bashir asked to Saudi summit with Trump despite ICC charges

Saudi Arabia has invited Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, who is wanted for alleged war crimes, to a summit with US President Donald Trump and Arab and Muslim leaders.

Mr Bashir will travel to Saudi Arabia on Friday, Sudan's Foreign Minister Ibrahim Ghandour said.

The minister added that he hopes US sanctions against Sudan will be lifted in July, and said he believes the US wants to normalise relations.

It is not known whether Presidents Bashir and Trump will meet when the US leader arrives in Saudi Arabia on Saturday.

The visit is Mr Trump's first overseas trip since taking office, and he is scheduled to address the summit on his "hopes for a peaceful vision of Islam".

In 2009 and 2010, the International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants against Mr Bashir for genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity related to the conflict in Darfur, which has claimed at least 300,000 lives.

He denies the charges, and has successfully evaded arrest for several years.

edited 17th May '17 6:00:19 PM by CenturyEye

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#189608: May 17th 2017 at 6:04:14 PM

[up]That sort of reminds of a thing that was posted years back, about people being skeptical of Politico or something because it rated things Republicans said as false like three times as often as with Democrats. Apparently the thought that Republicans just lie way more, or in this case that more stuff keeps coming up and that's why the media keeps talking about it, never occurred to them.

edited 17th May '17 6:05:03 PM by LSBK

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#189610: May 17th 2017 at 6:27:56 PM

Trump has no plans on changing or cutting Food Stamp programs, according to Sonny Perdue, Trump's Secretary of Agriculture.

I guess that's one good thing about this crooked administration; he may want to kill Obamacare, but he won't touch Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security Programs, unlike the rest of his party that really wants to do away with it entirely...

[up] At least Flynn is Flynned. And while that might help an Obstruction of Justice case against Trump, we still need to get Republicans on board with actually doing anything, or wait until 2018.

I have no doubt that Flynn is going down before 2018, though. They have no reason to spare him at all.

edited 17th May '17 6:30:51 PM by DingoWalley1

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#189611: May 17th 2017 at 6:28:56 PM

[up][up]Pence lead the transition didn't he? That alone should make him ineligible for president in my opinion.

edited 17th May '17 6:29:35 PM by Kostya

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#189612: May 17th 2017 at 6:30:41 PM

It should but it wont. It seems he was out of the loop when Trump asked Comey to stop the investigation, and the Republicans are going to cling to him like drowning swimmers to a lifeboat.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#189613: May 17th 2017 at 6:30:59 PM

Democratic leaders seek to stifle impeachment talk

“Because it’s such an extraordinary and wrenching remedy,” said California Rep. Adam Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee’s top Democrat, “it’s not something I believe that people should wish for — whether you like or dislike the president.”

Furthermore, with the prospect of impeachment still far, far off in a Republican-controlled Congress, Democrats in both chambers want to stay focused building opposition to the GOP’s Obamacare repeal effort. They’re well aware that the Trump scandals dominating the news cycle threaten to shift attention from unpopular parts of the Republican agenda.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/trump-democrats-impeachment-238477?lo=ap_f1

It seems the Democrats will not push impeachment right now.

edited 17th May '17 6:33:50 PM by megaeliz

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#189614: May 17th 2017 at 6:33:32 PM

Likely everyone is now going to wait to see what the special prosecutor turns up.

It's still, and always has been, about 2018. When the Dems take the House, then lots of possibilities open up.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#189615: May 17th 2017 at 6:35:06 PM

Why would a foreigner work as a lobbyist for Turkey? Is this a question better suited for a different thread?

edited 17th May '17 6:35:32 PM by BearyScary

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#189616: May 17th 2017 at 6:37:10 PM

Impeachment isn't likely until the smoking gun AND we get Senators on board.

I don't necessarily like it, but I understand the reasoning at least.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#189618: May 17th 2017 at 6:57:28 PM

@Beary, probably money, though with Flynn there might be some sort of autocratic ideological crap. But its probably mostly money.

Hopefully he only turned after he left the military....

As for impeachment, let the investigation run its course (in public) and then wait to see to the Republicans play ball or not. If they don't, they reap what they sow (between this and their promises not coming through). If they do, Trump is gone and they still look pretty awful.

edited 17th May '17 6:58:45 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#189619: May 17th 2017 at 7:01:34 PM

At the least we can hope that this makes his getting re-elected essentially impossible.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#189620: May 17th 2017 at 7:06:56 PM

[up] not that it'll stop him from trying.

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#189621: May 17th 2017 at 7:33:50 PM

It wouldn't matter if he turned before or after he retired. He still has knowledge of a TON of classified info and intelligence gathering methods. Any one of which a foreign adversary would love to get their hands on.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#189622: May 17th 2017 at 7:46:23 PM

On one hand, I still think impeachment may turn out to be necessary, despite how much trouble it would bring.

On the other hand, it's true that it's unlikely with a GOP held Congress, there's no surefire smoking gun (yet), and the ACA repeal is still the far more immediate threat.

I'm not super happy about it, but I think the Hill Democrats are making the right call.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#189623: May 17th 2017 at 7:51:58 PM

I don't think it's possible to have a totally perfect outcome. Even if Trump is impeached and even if he's forced out of office, that still leaves other issues. But it's a good start.

About all of the stuff from today and the past week I was thinking of a paraphrase of a quote from Archer - Think about Trump right now, "he's all tied up somewhere, scared and alone. Probably dehydrated." [lol]

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#189624: May 17th 2017 at 8:02:47 PM

[up] Don't get me wrong, I want Trump impeached, out of the WH, and preferably in a prison cell.

As for Pence...he's gonna be shitty for the LGBTQ community and for people who aren't WASP in general. No doubt about that. But the thing is, as has been brought up before here, the thing he will do that will hurt them the most? It's something Trump has already done and will keep doing: appoint "conservative" (read: regressive) judges.

Disgusted, but not surprised
FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#189625: May 17th 2017 at 8:10:51 PM

Pence is afraid he is going to be dragged down to the bottom with Trump: https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/865020071932035072


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