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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Asgore Adopts Noelle
O_O!!!
Trump Revealed Intel on the Most Serious Plot Against U.S. Planes Since 9/11
Yeah, this is pretty much a Crying Wolf situation. Trump actually had some logic behind what he was doing this time but his previous idiocy makes us inclined to distrust him.
edited 16th May '17 1:07:15 PM by Kostya
If Trump actually got an intelligence asset murdered then that's a new low, even for him. I keep wanting to think there isn't that much room left under that particular barrel, but it's never the case. Each time we think he's reached the lowest point he can, he goes and digs himself a new subbasement.
Any news on how the US intelligence community is reacting to this? They didn't like him much to start with, and while things had appeared to be smoothing over, this can't have helped. I also certainly can't blame any of the US' traditional allies who decide that maybe sharing intelligence with America isn't such a great idea after this. Certainly I don't want any of CSIS' agents (all four of them) getting compromised or killed because Trump can't keep his mouth shut.
And since we aren't shooting at them either that point of view is objectively insane. The fears expressed throughout the Obama presidency about death panels and FEMA concentration camps, Obama taking their guns and discrimination against white people, none of them were based on anything that was actually happening. Sure, there are legitimate criticisms to make of the Obama administration, but none of those criticisms were coming from the Republicans in power. Last I checked, polls indicated that a fourth of Republicans still thought that Obama was not a citizen. A similar portion thought that he was secretly a Muslim (and of course that this made him a threat to the nation). None of this was based in reality.
This is where the both-siderism argument goes off the rails, by the way. When Democrats or liberals or progressives or whatever we choose to call ourselves, say that the Republicans are threatening people's lives, they talk about the AHCA. They talk about Sessions' enacting policies that target minorities. They talk about Trump signing legislation to roll back protection for LGBT people or other minorities. They talk about the Muslim ban. They talk about gerrymandering and voter ID laws. They talk, in short, about things the Republicans have done, have talked about doing, or have promised to do. They talk about things that are actually happening.
A majority of Democrats and other American leftists deal in some version of reality, or at least something close to it. The current Republican Party does not. It pitches its base a paranoid fantasy, and sells them on fear, not of things that are happening or even things that might happen, but on things that will never happen. To paraphrase an article I posted before, this culture war is being run in bad faith by bad actors and there are going to be a lot of unnecessary casualties.
The Canadian and German governments at least already have an unofficial policy of ignoring everything Trump says and only react to what he does. And I'm sure that more nations do the same.
Countries around the world are ignoring the words of the President of the United States because he's too erratic for them to count on anything.
edited 16th May '17 1:45:57 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Yeah, that's the annoying part about his presidency: he is going to screw up everything for everyone, and once he's out of office, either by removal or his term ending, he's going right back to being a stupidly rich asshole in his golden tower.
Justice is a lie.
EDIT: This is of course the part where someone links to Terry Pratchett's view on the matter
of lies.
edited 16th May '17 2:05:41 PM by Kayeka
I've said before, just by being President he's won. Short of Unpersoning him he there will never, going forward, be a time where he was not President of the United States. No matter how disgracefully he falls, he will forever be part of our history. For an egomaniac like him that's the ultimate victory
One thing to keep in mind though. He's currently using his position as leverage to get things done in other countries. When he stops being President, all that leverage is gone completely. No one will have any incentive whatsoever to work with him and his name will be garbage the world over. For example, Trump's been handed the trademark to his name in China. Once he leaves the presidency, there is no reason for China not to yank the trademark back, because they've done that before to domestic businessmen who went bankrupt.
Trump thinks that he's going to coast on the presidency until he dies, but that gets increasingly unlikely every single day.
Yeah, it's not the result a lot of people want, but the Trump empire being ruined forever the day after he leaves the presidency would to a lot to help me feel better.
EDIT: As
pointed out, I got the Trademark and Copyright flipped around again. It is now fixed.
edited 16th May '17 2:28:26 PM by Zendervai
