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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#188876: May 14th 2017 at 8:40:08 AM

Has anyone ever managed to reason with the South (without torching the place)?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#188877: May 14th 2017 at 8:44:01 AM

Nil desperandum, folks. If this is vaguely true, then impeachment might be on the cards. There are enough Republicans in both the House and the Senate who would balk at continued support of Trump if he has, indeed, been issued a sealed indictment.

Russia can't have blackmailed all of them, after all.

However, if we hear nothing more of it in the next three months: desperandum ultra. :/

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#188878: May 14th 2017 at 8:45:25 AM

[up] Regardless of months, always nil desperandum folks.

edited 14th May '17 8:45:32 AM by Luigisan98

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#188879: May 14th 2017 at 8:46:14 AM

[up][up]Got a better source?

Apparently Trump is increasingly agitiated and isolated, even within the West Wing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/trump-comey-white-house-morale-fallout/index.html

Maybe things are starting to implode?

edited 14th May '17 8:49:48 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#188880: May 14th 2017 at 8:50:51 AM

[up]There are a few, but they're all pretty fringe. Hence the hedging I did. <_< However, they claim origins from sources who turned out to have substance before over FBI and CIA probes into Trump.

Early days. :/

edited 14th May '17 8:53:35 AM by Euodiachloris

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#188881: May 14th 2017 at 8:51:05 AM

[up] He seems to be absorbing most of it.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#188882: May 14th 2017 at 8:54:14 AM

I mean, if there is truth to this indictment story, it will eventually break on more credible sources.

If not, it will fade.

But I refuse to get my hopes up on this until it does break.

edited 14th May '17 8:57:12 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#188883: May 14th 2017 at 8:56:06 AM

[up] Same here. On top of the fact that Republicans in Congress will not surrender Trump this early.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188884: May 14th 2017 at 8:56:22 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] I don't know how reliable rawstory is considered, but there's a link I posted earlier from them. That said, they admit it's mostly two people on blogs and twitter making the claims that independent sou rcesconfirmed the sealed indictment, so it's still a "grain of salt" scenario.

[up] Not if they have a choice. If it turns into a matter of Trump's survival or their own, that might change things up a bit.

edited 14th May '17 8:57:09 AM by sgamer82

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#188885: May 14th 2017 at 8:56:33 AM

Has anyone ever managed to reason with the South (without torching the place)?
Well I'm from the South, so some of us can be reasonable. But considering that I'm of the position that Sherman didn't burn enough of the South down maybe I'm not as reasonable as I think...

edited 14th May '17 8:56:57 AM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#188886: May 14th 2017 at 8:57:38 AM

Anybody else noticing all the steps of a classic narcissistic degenerative breakdown? No? Cool. <_<

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188887: May 14th 2017 at 8:58:01 AM

[up] Since I don't know what those steps are, I'll say no.

edited 14th May '17 8:58:12 AM by sgamer82

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#188888: May 14th 2017 at 9:01:30 AM

Tell us the steps, please.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#188889: May 14th 2017 at 9:01:50 AM

[up]x5 That's the problem: His survival is their survival. If Trump goes, so do so many of his voting base, who don't give a crap about Republicans. At this point, they only care about Trump, and will only vote Republican because he is a Republican. If the Republicans kick out Trump, either from the Party or from Presidency, they will not vote Republican ever again. They would rather vote for 3rd Parties or Independents that Mimic Trump then vote for the Backstabbing "Globalist" Party that kicked him out.

The Republicans backed themselves into a Corner and they need Trump, at least right now. They could've avoided this all back in 2012, but they dug into this pit that they can no longer escape. It's either Trump, or nothing, and they can't have nothing.

edited 14th May '17 9:02:34 AM by DingoWalley1

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#188890: May 14th 2017 at 9:06:05 AM

[up][up][up][up]Have you all heard the Tragedy of the Confederacy? I thought not. It's not a story your Southern Family would tell. It's a Northern Legend. The Confederacy was a Region so desperate to cling to slavery...they fought their northern brothers for the right to keep them. For Four years, even the Southerners who didn't own a slave to their name, fought to the last name. Racism is a pathway to many ideas that one would consider delusional. Decades after their demise, their descendants would still cling to the idea of the South rising Again. Ironic isn't it? The Southerners who want the South to Rise again, are the same people who keep it in its perpetual state of ignorance and racism.

New Survey coming this weekend!
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#188891: May 14th 2017 at 9:08:53 AM

[up][up]They also need Trump to be a highly-visible scapegoat for when things inevitably do go down the toilet. The President gets all the credit for when things go right, but he also gets blamed for everything that goes wrong — even if he had no influence upon it whatsoever.

Everybody knows Trump, but most voters couldn't name anybody else in the government. Ergo, it's all Trump's fault.

This Space Intentionally Left Blank.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#188892: May 14th 2017 at 9:10:12 AM

It's why I say that unless we can bring a huge chunk of Republican leadership down with Trump this won't actually do anything.

It'll let the GOP safely amputate Trump and his brand. Doubly so if they're the ones who actually do the impeaching.

Oh really when?
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#188893: May 14th 2017 at 9:14:19 AM

Twitter: Underrated polling story is the erosion in the intensity of Trump's job approval among Republicans. Shown here across two polls {image in the link}. While Trump's approval among republicans is stable, strong approval has been dropping fast and hard (-12 points since february according to Quinnipiac).

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#188894: May 14th 2017 at 9:24:46 AM

OK — like any breakdown resulting from a mental health condition plus stress (I use Wikipedia because it covers all the bases much better than a bulletpointed PowerPoint presentation... and, I'm too lazy to type when it's right there).

I posit that, at the very least, our case has exhibited many of the signs over several months; not least, a very disrupted sleep pattern (evidence: tweeting at some very strange times over extremely odd topics).

Add this. Stir with collected news clippings.

edited 14th May '17 9:36:33 AM by Euodiachloris

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#188895: May 14th 2017 at 10:37:58 AM

It's possible that the GOP have looked and how the special elections have been going and decided that it'll be too late once Trump starts actually costing them seats- perhaps none of them want to serve as goldmine canary for the rest of the party, or have decided that an alarmingly close race in Kansas was all the warning they needed.

Which I'm aware is an awfully optimistic way of looking at it, but hey.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#188896: May 14th 2017 at 10:55:30 AM

[up][up] If this is indeed the case, it only makes Trump more dangerous.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#188897: May 14th 2017 at 11:21:11 AM

[up]Yup. This next fortnight could get really interesting. :/ <glances towards North Korea> <glances at the Constitution> <shudders>

Or, something else entirely: narcissism can throw a lot of randomness into the specifics of predictions, even if you can map the general trend. The temporal lobes: not given to logical logic; emotional knee-jerk chains all the way, baby. -_-

edited 14th May '17 11:27:42 AM by Euodiachloris

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#188898: May 14th 2017 at 11:36:46 AM

Want something more to worry about? This is the perfect time fir someone overseas to do something provocative.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#188899: May 14th 2017 at 11:43:34 AM

[up]The Russian contingent has already been playing very ego-targeted silly buggers (seriously, that whole Only Russia Allowed press... event).

They've played Trump like a lute over the past few days. <_< I'm a little worried they'll go too far. -_-

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#188900: May 14th 2017 at 11:43:45 AM

[up][up] Hope's not fucking Maduro...

edited 14th May '17 11:43:55 AM by Luigisan98

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