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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
In this current political climate, a "sane" newcomer would be tarred and feathered by the rest of the Party, denounced as a RINO, and blacklisted from political life. It'd be political suicide.
These days a sane conservative would have better luck in the Democratic Party. Assuming of course that people like the Justice Democrats — who think emulating the Tea Party is a good idea — don't gain more power.
edited 14th May '17 1:46:21 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedOne work that tackles it is All in the Family: The Realignment of American Democracy Since the 1960s,
which examines how the "breadwinner liberalism" of the New Deal that favored government support, shifted to current "breadwinner conservatism" that demands moral protection. And how the political climate of the 60s (Vietnam, civil rights, gay and lesbian rights, women's rights, etc. and the government's role in all of them), became framed as threats to the "family," building up to the uniting of religious conservatives and economic libertarians into the modern conservative movement.
Another work is Suburban Warriors: The Origins of the New American Right
, which specifically examines Orange County, California, and the grassroots elements of the conservative movement, starting primarily with Goldwater. It also touches on how anti-communism shifted into anti-liberalism, again under those perceived threats to the status quo.
edited 14th May '17 2:28:07 AM by Eschaton
As a moderate, I do think there are still some sane Republicans in the party (John Kasich is one of the best examples), but unfortunately they are not the majority, and instead it is run by the likes of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.
Life is unfair...
It's the blatantly crazy/evil ones who get all the headlines. The sane ones are the people you never hear about because they're, well, sane. But being a pragmatist, I would like to think that the sane ones are the powerless silent masses at the bottom of the dogpile* , while the crazy/evils are the ones currently wielding power.
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He wanted to keep Obamacare (big plus for me), would not go after LGBT people's rights and acknowledged climate change as a reality. That's much more reasonable than you can expect from a Republican in power these days.
edited 14th May '17 4:53:52 AM by Grafite
Life is unfair...If they really are discriminating on the basis of political alignment, that sounds challengable in court.
And, by the way, there are plenty of sane conservatives, and insane liberals, but group identity tends to drive people crazy.
edited 14th May '17 6:01:13 AM by DeMarquis
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.I found this:
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/has-a-sealed-indictment-been-issued-against-president-trump/
“Separate sources with links to the intelligence and justice communities have stated that a sealed indictment has been granted against Donald Trump,” wrote Mensch and Taylor at the Patribotics blog.
They continued, “While it is understood that the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution means that, until Mr. Trump is impeached, he cannot be prosecuted, sources say that the indictment is intended by the FBI and prosecutors in the Justice Department to form the basis of Mr. Trump’s impeachment. The indictment is, perhaps uniquely, not intended or expected to be used for prosecution, sources say, because of the constitutional position of the President.”
Mensch is known as something of a polemicist — some dismiss her as a crackpot conspiracy theorist — and yet, as GOP strategist and fellow Trump critic Rick Wilson pointed out on Twitter, she has been right on target with certain key findings in the secretive murk around Trump and investigations into his connections to Russia’s mafia underworld.
A Dutch TV documentary shed light this week on some of Trump’s connections to Russia’s lawless elite and explained how the intercepted communications between Trump campaign officials and Russian organized crime figures could have been discovered as part of a money-laundering and organized crime case.
Link to the Patriotics blog: https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/14/exclusive-sealed-indictment-granted-against-donald-trump/
edited 14th May '17 6:28:14 AM by sgamer82
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That would be fantastic if that were true, but I doubt it is. Even if it were true, a Republican House would never call for his Impeachment, and a Republican Senate would never bother to do anything with it. We'd need the House to at least go Blue in order for any Impeachment to actually happen, even if it results in Trump being found 'innocent'.
So in non-Trump related news, a cadre of protestors gathered at the Robert Lee park in Charlottesville to apparently support the confederacy, uttering such slogans as “You will not replace us,” “Russia is our friend” and “Blood and soil.”
To which I just have to say...
"I wanna go back to Dixie, take me back to dear old Dixie! That's the only little ol' place for little ol' me! Old times there are not forgotten, whoppin' slaves and sellin' cotton, and waiting for the Robert E. Lee! (It was never there on time...)"
edited 14th May '17 8:00:50 AM by kkhohoho
James Clapper, the former US Director of National Intelligence, says that core American institutions are under attack from without (Russia) and from within (Trump).
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/14/politics/james-clapper-russia-collusion/index.html?adkey=bn
Yeah, this is going to be a really shitty next few years.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.However, he is likely heading for further difficulties. The Memo: Dangers ahead for Trump on Comey
: "...On Friday, GOP dissent grew deeper when Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) said the appointment of an independent prosecutor to look into alleged links between Trump associates and Russia “should be on the table,” if congressional probes into the matter encounter obstacles. Heller is up for re-election next year, and his seat is widely seen as the top Democratic target.
The Nevadan is one of about a dozen GOP senators who have expressed concern or criticism about the president’s actions."
His influence within Washington seems to be weakening. This only a week after the house passed his healthcare bill.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.

Or maybe a guy who was a drunken raging anti-Semite who had few compunctions about using harsher drug laws to indirectly harass minorities and hippies wasn't the best judge of character when it came to bigotry.
Disgusted, but not surprised