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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#188826: May 13th 2017 at 8:07:59 PM

[up] It is an echo chamber, though it's a centrist/beltway echo chamber which is hard to come by these days with confidence in traditional parties at an all time low. It's pretty much impossible not to have an online debate turn into an echo chamber because of how most people prefer to discuss politics with likeminded individuals. I consider myself an exception that particular rule, at least to the extent that I force myself to, when it comes to politics, spend more time discussing things with people I disagree with than people I agree with, because talking politics with someone I agree with is just a cycle of validating each others' opinions.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#188827: May 13th 2017 at 8:08:09 PM

Minority voices in the GOP should be good, but more often than not they seem to go extra crazy to stay in rather than acting as a moderating presence.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188828: May 13th 2017 at 8:09:55 PM

[up][up][up]Keep in mind that not everyone here is a liberal, a Democrat, or even an American. I for one consider myself a conservative in certain respects.

This place is not an echo chamber. It just happens to have certain standards of basic decency and respect.

[up]They're overcompensating for being the "other" in a vain attempt to make the rest of their group forget "oh wait, this person is someone we're supposed to hate."

edited 13th May '17 8:12:22 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#188829: May 13th 2017 at 8:11:15 PM

[up]This-I doubt we are the only 2 here that might be conservatives in a sane political climate.

edited 13th May '17 8:11:28 PM by ViperMagnum357

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#188830: May 13th 2017 at 8:21:43 PM

[up][up][up]I'm rather sure there are non-crazy conservative minorities (whose motivations I can only speculate on). I only have two bits of non-anecdotal evidence, but the Georgia GOP is in financial straits partly because of its poor treatment of a black member of the party and one (of four) of the runners for chair of the GA GOP is a black man.
Whether its divide and conquer is a judgement of history (but its what I believe). I'd be rather happier if both (or more than two parties or hundreds of independents) adopted targeted universalism and left it to voters to choose which T.U. plan to go with, but that's the future.

edited 13th May '17 8:23:07 PM by CenturyEye

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#188831: May 13th 2017 at 8:32:40 PM

I'm a dirty far left socialist so I don't tend to pipe up much. Anything too left leaning starts up the "Grr sanders" shit again and that is tiring, let me tell you.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188832: May 13th 2017 at 8:34:53 PM

[up][up]

both (or more than two parties or hundreds of independents) adopted targeted universalism and left it to voters to choose which T.U. plan to go with, but that's the future.

That's not gonna happen as long as pandering to peoples' bigotry is seen as an effective strategy to get votes.

edited 13th May '17 8:35:10 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#188833: May 13th 2017 at 8:37:04 PM

So apparently one of the people considered as a replacement for Comey is the senate majority whip John Coryn of Texas, which would result in new leadership elections among Republican senators.

Trump prioritizes personal loyalty (or the ability to fake it) above pretty much everything in terms of his appointments, though a handful of people (Henry Kissinger for one, which is supposedly why Trump's foreign policy team is slightly less odious than the rest) seem to be able to get him to go starry eyed and say yes to whatever they suggest.

We'll have to see what ends up actually happening.

edited 13th May '17 8:39:16 PM by CaptainCapsase

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#188835: May 13th 2017 at 9:00:25 PM

White House invokes Russia in response to North Korea missile test

The White House on Saturday said President Donald Trump "cannot imagine that Russia is pleased" with North Korea's latest missile test.

The statement from press secretary Sean Spicer said "the missile impacting so close to Russian soil – in fact, closer to Russia than to Japan – the President cannot imagine that Russia is pleased

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

New Survey coming this weekend!
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#188836: May 13th 2017 at 9:02:04 PM

[up] "I'm not a Russian stooge, but I am worried about the safety and well being of the Russians! Especially Putin!" - Donald Trump

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188837: May 13th 2017 at 9:02:29 PM

Even if his administration wasn't being investigated for compromising connections to Russian interests, this kind of statement seems stupid.

edited 13th May '17 9:02:39 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#188838: May 13th 2017 at 9:04:35 PM

All it says to me is that he wants Russia to do all the heavy lifting, just like in the Middle East, so he can swoop in later and take all the credit.

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#188839: May 13th 2017 at 10:29:23 PM

[up][up]It's Trump. Pointing out that he said something stupid is like pointing out that the sun is hot.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#188840: May 13th 2017 at 10:32:55 PM

NC Senate GOP strips education funding from Democrats districts

N.C. Senate Republicans were visibly upset with Democrats for prolonging the budget debate with amendments during an after-midnight session Friday morning.

As the clock approached 1 a.m., Senate Minority Leader Dan Blue was summoned to the front of the chamber to talk privately with Senate leader Phil Berger. The Senate had rejected five amendments from Democrats to fund their spending priorities, but each time one proposal was shot down, another one was filed.

Senate Rules Chairman Bill Rabon abruptly called for a recess, stopping the proceedings for nearly two hours. GOP leaders headed to a conference room with legislative budget staff, while Democrats – some surprised by the lengthy delay – passed the time with an impromptu dance party in the hall.

The session finally resumed around 3 a.m., and Republican Sen. Brent Jackson introduced a new budget amendment that he explained would fund more pilot programs combating the opioid epidemic. He cited “a great deal of discussion” about the need for more opioid treatment funding.

Jackson didn’t mention where the additional $1 million would come from: Directly from education programs in Senate Democrats’ districts and other initiatives the minority party sought.

Sen. Erica Smith-Ingram’s rural district in northeastern North Carolina took the biggest hit from the amendment. It strips $316,646 from two early college high schools in Northampton and Washington counties, and it specifically bans state funding from supporting a summer science, math and technology program called Eastern North Carolina STEM.

Party of monsters!

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188841: May 13th 2017 at 10:38:35 PM

Can any of that be vetoed by the governor?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188842: May 13th 2017 at 10:40:03 PM

@No Name 999 It's the NC GOP. After all of the shit they have pulled recently, this isn't a surprise. Disgusting, but not a surprise.

edited 13th May '17 10:40:34 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
FireCrawler2002 Since: Apr, 2017
#188843: May 13th 2017 at 10:41:54 PM

[up][up][up] It's North Carolina. Shit like this happens pretty much weekly there now.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#188844: May 13th 2017 at 10:50:23 PM

They're being petty and children will suffer for it. Bastards.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#188845: May 13th 2017 at 10:50:34 PM

The North Carolina GOP does seem to be extra spiteful and blatantly awful.

edited 13th May '17 10:50:54 PM by LSBK

chartoc Since: Apr, 2010
#188846: May 13th 2017 at 11:11:12 PM

And they make me glad to never vote for GOP in my state ever again. They only got both houses of my state's General Assembly since 2010 after have never been in control of both of them since 1896. They are riding until the wheels off and they and the population is suffering for it too.

http://prospect.org/article/north-carolinas-tug-war

edited 13th May '17 11:12:58 PM by chartoc

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#188847: May 13th 2017 at 11:15:44 PM

Yeah, that's horrifying and all, but the Democrats passed time with an impromptu dance party.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#188848: May 14th 2017 at 1:15:20 AM

When did the GOP went insane?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188849: May 14th 2017 at 1:25:11 AM

[up] The moment Nixon thought "Hey, a bunch of the racists are upset about that Civil Rights Act! Let's bring them on board! No way this will go horribly wrong!"

Disgusted, but not surprised
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#188850: May 14th 2017 at 1:31:31 AM

[up] Maybe he thought they could be redeemable...

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