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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188751: May 13th 2017 at 2:32:59 PM

[up][up][up] Question: Rather than call everything Liberal Lies, can you provide some Republican Realities? If you don't believe what liberal sources tell you, what do you believe? What sources, be they major news outlets or stuff most of us here will probably, I admit, deride as conservative lies, are you following and getting information from?

[down] Wasn't that federal judge also a Bush appointee? Or am I thinking of the first Travel Ban's blocking?

edited 13th May '17 2:34:33 PM by sgamer82

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#188752: May 13th 2017 at 2:33:28 PM

When trump said he wanted to stop ILLEGALS... he meant just that... but they twisted it into hes a racist and wants to stop Mexicans from entering the country... leaving out the entirety of what he was saying.. They twist the oppositions word to make them look bad...

Same with being president is harder than he thought... they forgot to mention how he followed that up with but I can handle it I don't mind it being hard.

That first part is incredibly easy with Trump for a reason. His entire 2016 campaign makes it hard to think he's just in favor of enforcing the law to the point that a federal judge found enough in Trump's own words to get through our judiciary's very high standard on finding invidious discrimination.
As for the second—well no one is prepared for the presidency because there's only one job like it stateside. In context though that was coming off of trying to pass a massive healthcare rollback that not only was slapped together after nearly a decade of prep time, but flew in the face of all Trump's campaign promises. Further, it really confirmed suspicions about his ability to govern, given what he showed on the campaign trail.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#188753: May 13th 2017 at 2:33:50 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] The wall may very well end up being built, but it really won't accomplish all that much beyond costing money. Trump cracking down on illegal immigration (and illegal border crossing has been in the net negatives since Obama's second term) has already had a major chilling effect on illegal border crossing for one, making the wall even more pointless than it was to begin with; it'll deter a handful of people from crossing illegally who really aren't that desperate to begin with, cost a lot of money and annoy the hell out of people living on the border.

edited 13th May '17 2:36:10 PM by CaptainCapsase

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#188754: May 13th 2017 at 2:33:56 PM

How can you, in clear conscience, refer positively to a man who said that he can shoot someone in broad daylight and that it would not affect his popularity? (you know, ignoring the whole "shooting someone in broad daylight" thing)

Now, while I think Trump is not necessarily a bona-fide racist, his indifference to minorities' plights combined with actual racists and white supremacists that govern USA - either in his office, in House or Senate - does not make me think he is in any way sympathetic to them.

[up] Human trafficking will go through the water, especially considering how coast guard's budget has been maimed in favor of The Wall, same as with airport security.

edited 13th May '17 2:38:01 PM by FergardStratoavis

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#188755: May 13th 2017 at 2:35:24 PM

[up][up]And if it is built, it will be with American taxpayer dollars.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188756: May 13th 2017 at 2:35:25 PM

[up][up][up] Ironic, really.

edited 13th May '17 2:35:31 PM by sgamer82

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#188758: May 13th 2017 at 2:37:27 PM

CNN (Communist News Network) is a liberal news network.. and all I ever see them do is go after Trump.... and than you got Fox News which is a conservative news network (one of the only ones) and it praises Trump.

As a quasi-socialist, I wish. A hard left perspective would be great. CNN is your generic neoliberal, corporate media.

Anyone who thinks CNN is socialist doesn't actually know what socialism is. And is likely brainwashed by Fox News

When CNN starts pushing for the workers to seize the means of production and actively starts fighting Big Businesss then maybe I could see it as socialist.

edited 13th May '17 2:41:46 PM by MadSkillz

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#188759: May 13th 2017 at 2:37:45 PM

If trump could snap his finger and deport every illegal immigrant our economy would collapse and food prices would skyrocket.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188760: May 13th 2017 at 2:38:00 PM

[up][up][up]So basically you were trolling?

edited 13th May '17 2:38:10 PM by sgamer82

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188762: May 13th 2017 at 2:40:50 PM

That said, if you really aren't trolling (which I now doubt) can you provide any evidence of your own to back up your claims? While a lot of arguing and back and forth goes on here, we mostly post things meant to back up our claims. You've done none of that in favor of "throwing rocks at the beehive"

You can call everyone stubborn liberals all you want, but if you don't back up your own claims no one here has any obligation to assume anything but deliberate trolling.

Until that happens, I'm going to stop feeding the troll.

edited 13th May '17 2:42:24 PM by sgamer82

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#188763: May 13th 2017 at 2:41:06 PM

I'm curious what you think of the ACA vs AHCA dilemma.

edited 13th May '17 2:41:26 PM by Lanceleoghauni

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FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#188764: May 13th 2017 at 2:41:25 PM

[up][up][up][up] You are wrong in assuming you are unwelcome.

If you want a discussion, discuss with us rather than throw "left is bad, hurr" garbage around. The only person contributing to you feeling unwelcome is yourself.

edited 13th May '17 2:41:53 PM by FergardStratoavis

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#188765: May 13th 2017 at 2:41:32 PM

[up][up][up][up] yeah, no. Trump is no winner here.

edited 13th May '17 2:42:02 PM by fruitpork

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#188767: May 13th 2017 at 2:42:40 PM

That sure sounds like you're looking for a serious discussion, not.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#188768: May 13th 2017 at 2:43:34 PM

And, I mean, for future reference, defending the Wall is a good way of letting me know to not somebody seriously. It's one of the most ambitiously stupid ideas proposed by a major world leader ever.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#188769: May 13th 2017 at 2:43:39 PM

@Lunar: The fact that people just quit any political discussion wherein the participants don't agree with them ideologically is one of the major reasons why political discussions feel like they go nowhere, and why people on different parts of the political spectrum seemingly live in completely different universes. As infuriating as it is to constantly debate the same handful of talking points over and over again with people you have serious and seemingly irreconcilable ideological differences with, people's minds won't change if you aren't prepared to put in the effort.

edited 13th May '17 2:44:29 PM by CaptainCapsase

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#188770: May 13th 2017 at 2:43:56 PM

I'm with Gilphon.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188771: May 13th 2017 at 2:45:42 PM

[up][up] Cap's right on that. Though I say that with the knowledge I have zero interest of doing so myself. As I've said more than once in one form or another, I HAAAAATE politics and mostly follow threads like this to keep from being completely ignorant than out of a genuine enjoyment of the topic.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#188772: May 13th 2017 at 2:48:33 PM

Everyone got their pitchforks out. That was entertaining.. I am going to go back to the more fun sections of forums... although I wish they were as active as this thread. I wish I got the response rate on other threads like I did here. Throwing rocks the beehive was fun though

Guys, stop responding to this nonsense. He's a self-admitted troll. Anyone who says that they said what they said just to get a reaction, then tries to call the entirely reasoned disagreement he's been getting from the forum "getting their pitchforks out" is by definition a troll, and a pretty special snowflake-y one at that. Let's not give him any more of our time.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#188773: May 13th 2017 at 2:48:41 PM

So basically lunar, you were bored at work and decided to spam a thread.

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#188774: May 13th 2017 at 2:49:39 PM

Uncritically defending a worthless dolt and his trainwreck of an administration won't win you any supporters on this thread. Will you still come back here in 2020 if Trump loses? I want to point and laugh.

edited 13th May '17 2:49:52 PM by CrimsonZephyr

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