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Wryte Since: Jul, 2010
#188326: May 11th 2017 at 12:24:22 AM

It's TrumpDoesntCare. C'mon, we're supposed to be the smart party. Get your grammar right.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#188327: May 11th 2017 at 12:45:56 AM

Part of me vainly hopes Comey's hearing today goes along the way that he storms inside, puts a bottle of hard booze on the table before him, lits a smoke and goes "Okay, here's EVERYTHING."

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#188328: May 11th 2017 at 2:20:02 AM

[lol][lol][lol][lol][lol] These people have lost their goddamn minds.

New Survey coming this weekend!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188329: May 11th 2017 at 2:22:13 AM

[up] Why would you inflict a TYT video on us? I thought abusing fellow tropers was against forum rules. tongue

But seriously...their Sanders' worship is going way too far.

edited 11th May '17 2:22:27 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#188330: May 11th 2017 at 2:27:36 AM

Like...bruh. Never mind the fact that you're using polling THREE FUCKING YEARS before the Primary.

At one point, Hillary Clinton was the most popular politician in the country, and guess the fuck what? Systematically they eroded her favorability by Fox News, Fake News from Russia, and morons on the left trying to discredit her.

These idiots claim to be in the "know" and we have to fight the establishment, but can't get their own head out of their ass to see the extremely flawed logic of using polls to determine who'd be the best frontrunner in 2020.

New Survey coming this weekend!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#188331: May 11th 2017 at 2:28:46 AM

I think that any discussion of 2020 candidates is amazingly premature.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#188332: May 11th 2017 at 2:34:13 AM

I usually lurk, but I have to say I personally wouldn't trust Sanders anywhere near the executive branch period, let alone the Presidency itself.

Fuck, no.

The Senate is where any fuck ups of his will do the least amount of damage.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188333: May 11th 2017 at 2:38:42 AM

I'd only vote for Sanders if he ended up being the candidate against Trump somehow. But I'd strongly prefer not to do that.

And I agree that polls indicating popularity today are probably not that useful.

edited 11th May '17 2:41:32 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#188334: May 11th 2017 at 3:49:18 AM

Double post for topic change:

Because Puerto Rico isn't in enough shit...it turns out they might actually be drinking literal shit.

Their drinking water is basically a cesspool for bacteria that isn't tested for lead contamination. Like, at all. For all we know Flint tap water is Catskills Mountain spring water compared to Puerto Rico's tapwater.

This is of course happening in a time when the government of Puerto Rico might tack on even more austerity measures in a half-assed attempt to salvage their economy.

BTW, nobody has any fucking clue how to even begin to solve the debt crisis.

edited 11th May '17 3:53:11 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#188335: May 11th 2017 at 3:53:17 AM

They didn't really make a good case for him in that video.

edited 11th May '17 3:53:49 AM by MadSkillz

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#188336: May 11th 2017 at 4:08:08 AM

The only reason why Bernie Sanders is so popular is because the Russian bots systematically hyped him up in order to damage Hillary. If he had been the candidate, they would have eviscerated him with no problems whatsoever, since he isn't really a Democrat, but someone who is using the Party for his own platform (pretty much like Trump did with the Republicans).

Also, I read this in the comment section of the Guardian and felt that it needed some proper attention:

It's hard for to see any U.S. ties to Russia…except for

the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing and

the Tillerson thing and

the Sessions thing and

the Kushner thing and

the Carter Page thing and

the Roger Stone thing and

the Felix Sater thing and

the Boris Ephsteyn thing and

the Rosneft thing and

the Gazprom thing and

the Sergey Gorkov banker thing and

the Azerbajain thing and

the “I love Putin” thing and

the Donald Trump, Jr. thing and

the Sergey Kislyak thing and

the Russian Affiliated Interests thing and

the Russian Business Interests thing and

the Emoluments Clause thing and

the Alex Schnaider thing and

the hack of the DNC thing and

the Guccifer 2.0 thing and

the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing and

the Russians mysteriously dying thing and

the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing and

the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing and

the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing and

the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing and

the Cyprus bank thing and

the Trump not releasing his tax returns thing and

the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing and

the election hacking thing and

the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing and

the Steele Dossier thing and

the Leninist Bannon thing and

the Sally Yates can’t testify thing and

the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing and

the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing and

the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing and

the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing and

the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing and

the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary Mc Cord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing and

the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing and

the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing and

the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing and

the Agent M16 following the money thing and

the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing and

the Corey Lewendowski thing and

the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing and

the Betsy Devos' Brother thing and

the Sebastian Gorka thing and

the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing and

the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing and

the Pence and Manafort connection thing and

the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing and

the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list AND NOW the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing!!!

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!

edited 11th May '17 4:11:21 AM by Swanpride

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#188337: May 11th 2017 at 4:13:49 AM

The only reason why Bernie Sanders is so popular is because the Russian bots systematically hyped him up in order to damage Hillary. If he had been the candidate, they would have eviscerated him with no problems whatsoever, since he isn't really a Democrat, but someone who is using the Party for his own platform (pretty much like Trump did with the Republicans).

Eeeeeh, that's not really true. Russia stopped caring about Bernie after he lost the primary.

Sanders gained a lot more popularity after the primary and general election. Plus some people actually like that he isn't a Democrat.

This election favored "an outsider".

edited 11th May '17 4:16:34 AM by MadSkillz

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#188338: May 11th 2017 at 4:23:27 AM

[up] Nope, I read an article according to which the Wikileak reveal about the primary deal went hand in hand with bots propping Sanders wherever possible. Which makes sense, because the deal in itself was more or less normal politics. It was a dirty play, but it wasn't really illegal. It was only the notion that Hillary "stole" the position of candidate from someone else, who was then subsequently and systematically portrays as "more worthy" is the part which did the actual damage, not the leak in itself.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#188339: May 11th 2017 at 4:23:34 AM

Trump's deputy attorney general reportedly threatened to resign after being painted as the mastermind behind Comey's firing. Keep in mind that Trump was annoyed at Comey for a while, the "recommendations" may be simply a stitch-up to give the evil dog a sound-seeming rationale.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#188340: May 11th 2017 at 4:24:15 AM

[up][up][up] O_O

edited 11th May '17 4:24:29 AM by Luigisan98

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#188341: May 11th 2017 at 6:48:37 AM

@Swanpride: You know, for all your hatred of Russia you and Putin (and more or less every center-left poster here) clearly agree that there's no such thing as an "organic" popular movement, or a legitimate one for that matter. (except when claiming such a thing suits your agenda)

Resucing the dynamics of the 2016 election and current American politics to Russia's propoganda campaign is nothing more than an excuse to deny the agency of the voters around the country rejecting the political status quo and those who uphold it. The same concerns arose among liberals in the 1960s, when the political establishment desperately attempted to argue that civil rights movement and related popular movements were (correctly if we're going by your standards) linked back to the Soviet Union and communism with the goal of destabilizing the country.

Both then and now, Russia is at most providing a small push; putting them front and center is no different from Putin blaming "the West" for Russia's economic troubles; a means of deflecting from the very real domestic problems plaguing the country by playing a relatively minor factor up as the central cause.

edited 11th May '17 6:50:03 AM by CaptainCapsase

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#188342: May 11th 2017 at 6:59:09 AM

[up] Capsace, you seem to take a very black and white view of the political world, and it makes it very difficult to debate you. Why can't it be both simultaneously?

  • Yes, there are organic populist movements in the U.S. that profoundly resent the status quo.
  • Yes, those movements often have valid concerns and interesting policy ideas. They also have invalid/misdirected concerns and stupid policy ideas.
  • Yes, those movements get disproportionate media attention attention because of their (relative) extremism.
  • Yes, those movements are also incited and/or bankrolled by powerful elite interests for various reasons.
  • Yes, those movements cheerfully adopt talking points that are word-for-word propaganda seeded by the right-wing conspiracy press.
  • Yes, Russia does act as agent provocateur in those movements, seeding disinformation, funding disruptive elements, and generally muddying the waters.

All of these things can be true at once.

edited 11th May '17 8:06:00 AM by Fighteer

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#188343: May 11th 2017 at 6:59:25 AM

From Reuters alerts

"Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats; CIA Director Mike Pompeo, NSA Director Admiral Michael Rogers, and Acting FBI Director Andrew Mc Cabe testify before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence during annual hearing on world-wide threats. Former FBI Director James Comey had been scheduled to testify as part of its probe into Russia and the U.S. presidential election. An aide to the committee confirmed the testimony had been canceled.​"

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#188345: May 11th 2017 at 7:28:58 AM

The Acting Director is going to testify though.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#188346: May 11th 2017 at 7:42:40 AM

White House furious after being trolled with Russia Oval Office photos

The White House did not anticipate that the Russian government would allow its state news agency to post photographs of an Oval Office meeting between President Donald Trump, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russia's ambassador to the US, a White House official said.

Photos of Wednesday's meeting, taken by a Russian state news media photographer one day after Trump fired FBI Director James Comey amid questions about possible Trump campaign collusion with Moscow, were ultimately posted by Russia's news agency, TASS.

The White House did not post photos of the meeting although an official White House photographer was also in the room, the White House said. The State Department did post photos of Lavrov's meeting with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, but that was open to the press.

"They tricked us," an angry White House official said.

"That's the problem with the Russians — they lie," the official added.

The Russians used the photos to troll the White House in its social media posts Wednesday. The Russian Foreign Ministry posted a photo of a smiling US President shaking hands with Lavrov on Twitter, adding strange and ironic optics to the questions already swirling around the White House over Comey's firing.

LOL our sovereignty is in the hands of idiots LOL

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#188347: May 11th 2017 at 7:47:54 AM

[up]You personally let them into your home. What the fucking hell did you think they were gonna do?

edited 11th May '17 7:48:31 AM by kkhohoho

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#188348: May 11th 2017 at 7:54:52 AM

I can't tell if that's Laughing Mad or just resigned Gallows Humor...

Anyway...Tom Price on reporter’s arrest: ‘That gentleman was not in a press conference’

“I want to commend the West Virginia Capitol police. They did what they felt was appropriate, and we thank them for the work that they do,” Price said at a press conference in New Hampshire Wednesday. “It’s important to appreciate that gentleman was not in a press conference, we were walking down a hall and the Capitol police acted as they felt necessary.”

This is interesting. Price is President Donald Trump’s point man on generating a replacement for Obamacare. If constant motion provides protection from Fourth Estate inquiries, we’re about to see a whole lot of walking in Washington.

Right up there with Perdue saying it wasn't his job to check to the WH's actions or even ask questions about them...

Look with century eyes... With our backs to the arch And the wreck of our kind We will stare straight ahead For the rest of our lives
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#188349: May 11th 2017 at 8:01:53 AM

Trump tells reporters that he may release his tax returns "when he's out of office", and somehow manages to brag about them at the same time.

“Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters,” he said. “Oh, at some point I'll release them. Maybe I'll release them after I'm finished because I'm very proud of them actually. I did a good job.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/11/when-will-trump-release-his-taxes-238257


and Politico's Unauthorized White House Visitor Logs deserve a look. Although they are somewhat incomplete, it still gives a good idea of who has Trump's ear, and are the closest thing we have to actual White House visitor logs, since it was decided not to release them.

http://www.politico.com/interactives/databases/trump-white-house-visitor-logs-and-records/index.html

edited 11th May '17 8:33:29 AM by megaeliz

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#188350: May 11th 2017 at 8:47:13 AM

If you guys have the SAN points to spare, read this interview of Trump by the Economist.

http://www.economist.com/Trumptranscript?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/transcriptinterviewwithdonaldtrump

But beyond that it’s OK if the tax plan increases the deficit?

It is OK, because it won’t increase it for long. You may have two years where you’ll…you understand the expression “prime the pump”?

Yes.

We have to prime the pump.

It’s very Keynesian.

We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world. Have you heard that expression before, for this particular type of an event?

Priming the pump?

Yeah, have you heard it?

Yes.

Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven’t heard it. I mean, I just…I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good. It’s what you have to do.

It’s…

Yeah, what you have to do is you have to put something in before you can get something out.

edit: Bolded words in the quote are the interviewer's.

edited 11th May '17 8:52:40 AM by nightwyrm_zero


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